BHX Movements and Heads Up

[HPsauce]

Not three in a row i'm sure. I remember the G7 summit quite well. The European Cup Winners final was a broad mix of heavies and smaller charter aircraft.

 

[thunderchild]

Back on the good old days there used to be a morning (possibly two) in the summer when the first three scheduled arrivals were all 787s - 1 Qatar and 2 TUI.

Could also have happened the summer Emirates ran the morning flight and we got the Hainan charters.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I remember the G7 summit quite well.

It was definitely the 'G8 Summit'. It took place in 1998 and was promoted as '19g8'. Russia had been added to the G7 to become the G8 in 1997, but were suspended in 2014 following the annexation of Crimea. The title of the summits reverted to the G7.

G8 - Wikipedia

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24th G8 summit - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Kevin

 

[Brum X]

Does anyone know how often it is coming in? I’d love to see it.

Info credit to luke Robinson on EGBB/BHX Aviation Group on Facebook

TOMORROW!!!
National Airlines 747-400F, N936CA in the 30th Anniversary colour scheme! It is planned in tomorrow around 13:45 and out 16:30 but will probably be late like last time

!
Another flight is planned for Sunday with yet another different aircraft….
Make sure you keep a look out for that one

…
Subject to change.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

FR24 is giving an ETA of 17:53 for the National B747. I can't see a departure time.

Kevin

 

[Nethercote2019]

FR24 is giving an ETA of 17:53 for the National B747. I can't see a departure time.

Kevin

National 747 has just departed Baku 13-35

 

[HPsauce]

National B744F due BHX 19.10 but not showing on BHX arrivals on FR24?.

 

[jfy1999]

N936CA just went over Silverstone on its descent into BHX

 

[Kevin Farnell]

National B744F due BHX 19.10 but not showing on BHX arrivals on FR24?.

Strange, I've had no problem finding it listed on FR24 BHX arrivals. I can't however find a departure from BHX for it on FR24.

Kevin

 

[HPsauce]

Very odd Kevin. Likewise nothing showing for it's departure so far.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Back on the good old days there used to be a morning (possibly two) in the summer when the first three scheduled arrivals were all 787s - 1 Qatar and 2 TUI.

Could also have happened the summer Emirates ran the morning flight and we got the Hainan charters.

As most of you will know my memory is not the greatest but I'm sure that in the past I've been at BHX photographing early morning QR, TUi and EK arrivals, although three wide bodies in a row may have been disrupted by a United 757.

Those were the days eh

 

[Ray Finkle]

A332 9H-JFS is due early morning from Qingdao

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I'm sure that in the past I've been at BHX photographing early morning QR, TUi and EK arrivals, although three wide bodies in a row may have been disrupted by a United 757.

I think we have to look at the definition of 'heavy'. I know a lot of people who think it applies to widebodies, but this is not necessarily the case. 'Heavy' relates to the strength and persistence of the wake vortex behind the aircraft and is appended to the callsign. This decides the separation between the 'heavy' and any following aircraft. I've read that the B757 could be listed as a 'heavy', but not sure it ever was.
The next category up, is 'super', which applies to the A380. Are there any other aircraft that fall into this category? Possibly the C-5 Galaxy, or the An-225 Mriya?

Kevin

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Very odd Kevin. Likewise nothing showing for it's departure so far.

This is what I saw on FR24, viewed on a PC via Firefox (National B747 showing on the BHX FR24 arrivals list) -

I had also seen it listed for several hours before it landed.

Kevin

 

[Kevin Farnell]

FR24 is now showing the National B747 (F/No N8505) departing BHX at 08:40 to Zhengzhou (CGO) at 08:40.

Kevin

 

[HPsauce]

Interesting Kevin. It actually touched down at 19.00 but never showed on my FR24 arrivals. However it showed immediately on my Landed list after arrival. Thanks for the departure info.

 

[thunderchild]

As most of you will know my memory is not the greatest but I'm sure that in the past I've been at BHX photographing early morning QR, TUi and EK arrivals, although three wide bodies in a row may have been disrupted by a United 757.

Those were the days eh

You could also have thrown the weekly Air Transat into the mix too!

 

[Kevin Farnell]

FR24 is showing A330-200 (G-VYGK, F/No AWC223Y), due from BZZ at 12:32.

Kevin

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Just showing up on the ground at BZZ, callsign ZAP223Y.

Kevin

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Interesting to note that FR24 is showing the Air Tanker A330 (G-VYGK, AWC223Y) as 'unknown'. I watched it on FR24 depart BZZ and arrive at BHX using R15. The callsign however was ZAP223Y (I believe both 'AWC' and 'ZAP' are assigned to Titian Airways). Is this why FR24 hasn't recorded it on BHX arrivals?
FR24 has been showing some strange listings recently, including multiple arrivals of the same flight.
For tomorrow, FR24is showing Air Tanker A330 G-VYGK (yes, the same aircraft) arriving from LGW at 15:31 using the callsign AWC23W. However, I can't find any listing of it departing BHX after it's arrival yesterday.
I'm not saying that FR24 is at fault, as I don't know how they gather their information but I suspect it's from filed flight plans. Hopefully, they can get more accurate data soon and I wait to see if the A330 arrives from LGW, whatever the callsign.

Kevin