Ryanair

[White Heather]

Busy day tomorrow. Five Ryanair flights . The NIMBYs will be complaining!

 

[LBA4EVER]

Busy day tomorrow. Five Ryanair flights . The NIMBYs will be complaining!

I so wanna hear the sound of jet engines now, its just getting boring at the moment!

 

[LBA4EVER]

Nip around to my house and start up the beast fight2win!

you keep asking me to pop round to start the beast up! this is where questions need to be answered haha

 

[lbaspotter]

So finally we have confirmation Ryanair's LBA base was/is at threat of closure.

Ryanair pilots have agreed to accept a 20% pay cut to save 260 jobs. Negotiations continue to save further 70 at risk jobs at 4 UK airports Leeds/Bradford, Bournemouth, London Southend & Glasgow Prestwick which all faced closure.

Ryanair pilots vote to accept temporary pay cuts to protect jobs ⋆ BALPA ⋆ The Voice of UK Pilots

Pilots union BALPA announced today that its members employed by Ryanair in the UK have voted overwhelmingly to accept temporary pay cuts to save jobs that were under threat.

www.balpa.org

 

[Severn]

Taken from the article:

In May Ryanair had announced that 330 pilot jobs were at risk in the UK including 70 from four potential base closures (Leeds Bradford, Prestwick, Bournemouth and Southend).

Following intensive negotiations between BALPA and Ryanair a package of cost savings was put together. Pilots have agreed to accept a 20% pay reduction in order to save 260 of the jobs that were at risk, with most of the rest linked to the possible base closures which is still to be resolved. We will remain in negotiations with the airline about those jobs and aim to protect those too.

If I’ve read the article correctly, the 330 pilots have taken a 20% paycut but the fate of the 70 pilots who were from the four bases at risk of closure is still yet to be decided. Hopefully all four bases remain open but if I’m not mistaken, all are stillat risk of closure? Fingers crossed to all involved.

 

[White Heather]

That explains the absence of a summer 2021 programme yet then. More folder for GALBA to gloat over. No doubt they will help the pilots and crews find sustainable jobs if the axe does eventually fall on LBA.

 

[Wardair166]

Let's hope if FR do pull the base that they continue to operate a substantial LBA programme.

 

[White Heather]

I feel sure they would, using aircraft based in Spain, Poland, Malta etc. but let's hope it doesn't happen. Why is LBA always a victim though? Why base at two NW airports and not one in the NE? No doubt our crap terminal might have something to do with it, but Ryanair are no strangers to crap terminals. They should feel right at home at LBA! Their loads were always good.
Maybe all a way to negotiate wages down and landing fees down too. LBA management effectively have one hand tied behind their backs when negotiating with airlines and Ryanair are ruthless negotiators.

 

[Jerry]

Why base at two NW airports and not one in the NE?

Maybe those airports are just more profitable? Potentially richer catchment area maybe?

 

[LBAYORKIE]

I suspect ecomomies of scale have something to do with it. Really need a min of three aircraft at each base.

 

[Finger66]

If the worst does happen it will only free up stands for Jet2 to utilise. And it probably means non based a/c using facilities at non peak teams, so whilst some bad news here, it's not all necessarily bad news

 

[LBA4EVER]

Could be worse, could be southend airport! if Ryanair pull out of there that's literally the airport back to zero flights! Ryanair will never leave LBA, they will just fly aircraft in from other bases like ALC, PMI etc and im sure once we get a new terminal things will change in a positive way.

 

[airforced]

I feel sure they would, using aircraft based in Spain, Poland, Malta etc. but let's hope it doesn't happen. Why is LBA always a victim though? Why base at two NW airports and not one in the NE? No doubt our crap terminal might have something to do with it, but Ryanair are no strangers to crap terminals. They should feel right at home at LBA! Their loads were always good.
Maybe all a way to negotiate wages down and landing fees down too. LBA management effectively have one hand tied behind their backs when negotiating with airlines and Ryanair are ruthless negotiators.

Ryan play the odds wherever they operate from in order to screw the airports as much as they can. The only thing they are interested in is their own bottom line. They throw their toys out of the pram as a regular business tactic in order to get what they want. Sometimes airports stand up to them which pees them off no end and it usually means a withdrawal for a period. Whilst it is very nice to have them at LBA I would contend that it should not be at any price. They know they can fill planes here and if they depart someone else will replace them. One thing MOL isn't is stupid.

 

[Jerry]

They know they can fill planes here and if they depart someone else will replace them.

Who? Jet2 might replace the some of the capacity but especially at the moment it's highly unlikely anyone would replace say the Eastern European routes or the capacity they provide on Dublin.

 

[lbaspotter]

Most of our polish flights from Krakow, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Warsaw are now mainly operated Ryanair Sun (Buzz) Eastern European based aircraft, same can be said for both Malta and Pisa flights which are operated by Malta Air.
So we could end up keeping them routes along with likes of Dublin, Malaga, Alicante, Palma and Faro where Ryanair have bases.

 

[scottrhino]

Typical that just as the airport opens and we try and keep Ryanair the weather tomorrow is awful and we’re likely to see the majority divert away. Can’t believe the luck we have. Middle of June and 50+ mph winds

 

[scottrhino]

Sorry typo. In July!! Get the right month. Been a long lockdown haha

 

[JetRob]

Two Ryanairs from Warsaw and Aicante respectively have just aborted landing due to the high wind gusts we are currently experiencing. Looks quite nasty out there. The ALC Ryanair coming for a second try now. Warsaw still holding.

Edit: ALC Ryanair got in on the second attempt.

 

[scottrhino]

Thankfully the winds have subsided enough to get the first 3 flights in. KLM due mid morning might be more of a challenge.

A neighbour works at the airport and said the Alicante flight was full outbound. Not too sure about the inbound numbers. Presumably the Polish flights would be similar with families returning back and forth

 

[lbaspotter]

They are extra Ryanair flights scheduled to operate from LBA this week

Alicante = Increases from 3x to 5x weekly (Mon, Tue, Fri, Sat & Sun)
Girona = Increases from 1x to 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
Malaga = Increases from 2x to 3x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri)
Palma = Increases from 3x to 5x weekly (Mon, Tue, Thu, Fri & Sat)
Faro = Increases from 3x to 4x weekly (Mon, Thu, Fri & Sun)
Krakow = Increases from 2x to 3x weekly (Tue, Sat & Sun)

Saturday 1st
RYR9078 = ALC 18:00 – LBA 19:45 / RYR9079 = LBA 20:10 – ALC 23:55 (Alicante based Ryanair aircraft)
Sunday 2nd
RYR2333 = KRK 18:25 – LBA 19:55 / RYR2332 = LBA 20:25 – KRK 23:45 (Krakow based Buzz aircraft)
Monday 3rd
RYR2324 = GRO 06:55 – LBA 08:15 / RYR2325 = LBA 08:40 – GRO 12:00 (Girona based Ryanair aircraft)
RYR2326 = LBA 09:35 – PMI 13:10 / RYR2327 = PMI 13:45 – LBA 15:30 (Leeds based Ryanair aircraft)
RYR9079 = LBA 17:25 – ALC 21:10 / RYR9078 = ALC 21:45 – LBA 23:30 (Leeds based Ryanair aircraft)
Wednesday 5th
RYR2446 = LBA 17:00 – AGP 21:00 / RYR2447 = AGP 21:35 – LBA 23:35 (Leeds based Ryanair aircraft)
Thursday 6th
RYR2504 = FAO 16:25 – LBA 19:25 / RYR2503 = LBA 19:50 – FAO 22:45 (Faro based Ryanair aircraft)
Friday 7th
RYR2326 = LBA 09:35 – PMI 13:10 / RYR2327 = PMI 13:45 – LBA 15:30 (Leeds based Ryanair aircraft)

No Change to service

Limoges = 2x weekly (Thu & Sun)
Dublin = Remains reduced 5x weekly schedule (Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat & Sun)
Pisa Florence = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
Malta Luqa = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
Gdansk = 2x weekly (Thu & Sun)
Warsaw Modlin = 2x weekly (Thu & Sun)
Wroclaw = 2x weekly (Wed & Sun)
Ibiza = 2x weekly (Thu & Sun)