Teesside International Airport - General Thread

[Stagman]

Until Ryanair release their timetable for Summer 24, it is all a case of watch this space. Might be a case of increasing frequencies plus new routes, no one knows until Ryanair

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Until Ryanair release their timetable for Summer 24, it is all a case of watch this space. Might be a case of increasing frequencies plus new routes, no one knows until Ryanair

Well, as Tui havent increased flights, and BH have reduced theirs, everything now hinges on Ryanair- unless theres a new airline in the offing.

 

[Finger66]

There has been a very upbeat mood on social media regarding load factors. I would have thought that the airlines would have increased flights by more than this. If the demand is there theres the opportunity to raise fares and Im sure more W legs would work.

I cant understand, why, having proved there is the demand, they dont capitalise on it and increase their offerings. Why bother even 'testing the water' if theres no intention to offer more flights?

Still boils down to yield. Good LF doesn't necessarily equate to good yield. If there are currently any subsidies involved then we have all seen what happens when subsidies dry up. So definitely a wait and see scenario

 

[pug]

Still boils down to yield. Good LF doesn't necessarily equate to good yield. If there are currently any subsidies involved then we have all seen what happens when subsidies dry up. So definitely a wait and see scenario

Yield and local competition will play a large part in it. MME is very close to NCL with significant catchment area overlap. They are very much at the mercy of what happens up the road - in spite of what the mayor might want people to believe.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Yield and local competition will play a large part in it. MME is very close to NCL with significant catchment area overlap. They are very much at the mercy of what happens up the road - in spite of what the mayor might want people to believe.

I agree, but that being so why did the airlines even start services. Surely they must have thought there was potential and they must also have been prepared to increase flights. The current number of flights is ok for testing the water but surely not a practical number for sustained operations.

I suppose the current number are also impractical for the airport company, the staff must be under-employed.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

SSE Confirms Major Solar Power Project Set For Teesside Airport

A major solar power project at Teesside International Airport which could deliver enough green electricity to power the equivalent of more than 17,000 homes has been announced. An agreement has been reached between Teesside Airport and energy giant SSE Energy Solutions which will see a solar...

teesvalley-ca.gov.uk

 

[Stagman]

Teesside International Airport crowned UK & Irish Airport of the Year at the Travel Trade Gazette Awards.

Teesside Crowned UK & Irish Airport Of The Year At Major Industry Awards - Teesside International Airport

Teesside International Airport has been named UK & Irish Airport of the Year at a major industry ceremony in London. The airport was handed the prestigious accolade at the TTG Travel Industry Awards, with the publication TTG – the Travel Trade Gazette – celebrating those businesses and travel...

www.teessideinternational.com

 

[Stagman]

The Airport say over 27,000 passengers for September. Making it busiest month since 2010.
Teesside is one of six (out of 35) airports in UK to exceed pre covid levels.

Teesside Airport is 'UK's Most Recovered' as Passenger Numbers Take Off - Teesside International Airport

A surge in holiday demand has helped award-winning Teesside International Airport enjoy the biggest recovery in passenger numbers of any UK airport. The airport has seen passenger numbers soar by 96% since 2019. It is by far the biggest increase by a UK airport in a period which the industry...

www.teessideinternational.com

Draken have commissioned some short films to explain what they do.
From their Facebook feed.

https://fb.watch/nv1-qkcPqW/

 

[Stagman]

Planning approved for two twin hangars that will be located near railway station.

Work To Start On Giant Airport Hangar As Planning Approved - Teesside International Airport

Construction work on a key expansion of Teesside International Airport is to start after plans for a major new hangar were approved. The 27,000sq ft structure is the first of two new hangars which will provide a key development to attract further investment and return the airport to profit...

www.teessideinternational.com

 

[Stagman]

Teesside blasts past the 2012 yearly passengers total in nine months. With three months to go it will surpass the 2011 figure as well.

Airport say 27,178 passengers for September.

Airport Beats 11 Years of Passenger Numbers in Just Nine Months - Teesside International Airport

Teesside Airport has smashed the past 11 years of passenger numbers in just the first nine months of 2023, new figures have revealed. As 2023’s summer season of flights draws to a close, it was revealed that the award-winning Teesside Airport welcomed 178,523 passengers through its terminal...

www.teessideinternational.com

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Teesside blasts past the 2012 yearly passengers total in nine months. With three months to go it will surpass the 2011 figure as well.

Airport say 27,178 passengers for September.

Airport Beats 11 Years of Passenger Numbers in Just Nine Months - Teesside International Airport

Teesside Airport has smashed the past 11 years of passenger numbers in just the first nine months of 2023, new figures have revealed. As 2023’s summer season of flights draws to a close, it was revealed that the award-winning Teesside Airport welcomed 178,523 passengers through its terminal...

www.teessideinternational.com

Good to read that the Mayor, Ben Houchen is so supportive of Teesside Airport.

 

[pug]

Good to read that the Mayor, Ben Houchen is so supportive of Teesside Airport.

I’m not sure I can agree. Whilst I do think the intention is there, it’s largely been driven by Political favour and airports in regions of low relative economic success are vote winners.

It’s good to see Teesside doing well on face value, but there are several aspects of concern and amongst them;

1. The airport hasn’t really ‘grown’, yes passenger figures are up in September, but from what I can see there is no growth planned for next year. It also falls well short of its peak value in years previous.

2. The airport is losing the same amount per year as DSA was with about 10-20% of the peak passenger value.

3. Ben Houchen seems to have a lack of any real commercial awareness nor any professional etiquette. One example being the posting pictures onto Facebook of Jet2 aircraft on their EIS at one of the Teesside based MRO facilities and using it as an opportunity to publicly request that they fly from MME. This could frankly piss off some airline execs.

So yes, the airport passenger figures showed growth on pre-covid levels, perhaps more so than any other airport in the U.K. but it’s a hollow victory because at this time there are no plans for any further growth next year. Paying airlines to use your facility in the face of stiff competition is not I would argue a sustainable business model.

 

[Jerry]

Good to read that the Mayor, Ben Houchen is so supportive of Teesside Airport.

Well he did bring it back into public ownership which is not something you'd expect of a Conservatives mayor.

 

[pug]

Well he did bring it back into public ownership which is not something you'd expect of a Conservatives mayor.

But then created the Teesside Airport Foundation - a charitable trust that means that there is now no obligation to report detailed financial accounts. Call be a cynic, who knows perhaps Ben Houchen really does have a sense of public responsibility. Or perhaps he’s trying to hide something.

Teesside Airport Foundation: a skeleton in the TVCA’s cupboard

Scott Hunter investigates

northeastbylines.co.uk

 

[Jerry]

But then created the Teesside Airport Foundation - a charitable trust that means that there is now no obligation to report detailed financial accounts. Call be a cynic, who knows perhaps Ben Houchen really does have a sense of public responsibility. Or perhaps he’s trying to hide something.

Oh I suspect the latter! Politicians often don't like scrutiny!

 

[pug]

Oh I suspect the latter! Politicians often don't like scrutiny!

It’s not in the slightest bit ironic that Doncaster Council are pursuing a similar setup with DSA.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Oh I suspect the latter! Politicians often don't like scrutiny!

But passenger flights are only part of the equation. Theres so much else going on there that the other activities may be able to support the stagnant pax side of things until it picks up.

 

[Jerry]

But passenger flights are only part of the equation. Theres so much else going on there that the other activities may be able to support the stagnant pax side of things until it picks up.

Tbh the other side of the business is probably the bit that will make or break the airport. Passenger flights are the icing on the cake then.

 

[Stagman]

Draken have doubled their presence at the airport, extra hangar and aircraft.
The two Flight schools have expanded their fleets.
Office block built and leased out.
More retail/ hospitality units in the terminal getting passengers spending.
More cars using car parks.
New hangars being built with tenants pencilled in.
Willis has seen more work, thus bringing in extra revenues.
Southside first unit built with tenant expected to be announced shortly.

I was at the airport from 1200-1600 on Monday and had at least 50 aircraft movements.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

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Draken have doubled their presence at the airport, extra hangar and aircraft.
The two Flight schools have expanded their fleets.
Office block built and leased out.
More retail/ hospitality units in the terminal getting passengers spending.
More cars using car parks.
New hangars being built with tenants pencilled in.
Willis has seen more work, thus bringing in extra revenues.
Southside first unit built with tenant expected to be announced shortly.

I was at the airport from 1200-1600 on Monday and had at least 50 aircraft movements.

Its a shame Leeds couldnt do more with what theyve got.