Edinburgh: General Airport News, Updates & Discussion

[Jetsco]

November 2022

A few stats and load factors for selected routes.

Qatar (Doha) - 14362 or 95%
Turkish (Istanbul) - 9724 or 93%
UA (Newark) - 9461 or 94%
DL (JFK) - 7985 or 96%

 

[Aviador]

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[Jetsco]

December 2022

Some stats/load factors for the long haul routes.

Qatar (Doha) 14,951 or 98%
Turkish (Istanbul) 10,110 or 96%
Delta (JFK) 7,736 or 94%
United (Newark) 9,484 or 95%

 

[Jetsco]

January 2023

Some totals and approx load factors for long haul routes. Qatar and Turkish continue to perform extremely strongly. The American routes have performed steadily, given its January and off peak season.

United

EWR - 8050 or 83%

Delta

JFK - 5771 or 76%

Turkish

IST - 10,424 or 96%

Qatar

DOH - 14,918 or 98%

 

[Jetsco]

February 2023

Some totals and LF’s for certain long-haul routes.The capacity increase by Qatar appears to have been fully merited. Another very strong performance, particularly for a deep winter month.

Doha - QR - 18,692 or 94% Increased to 10 x weekly early Feb.
Istanbul - TK - 7,702 or 80%
Newark - UA - 7,102 or 78%
JFK - DL - 5,039 or 76%

 

[Jetsco]

US Pre-clearance

Looks like EDI is in line to deliver pre-clearance. This could be a massive boost for the airport and Scotland in general. The article mentioned the possibility of more routes to the US. I wonder where to? Sounds very promising.

https://archive.is/Cq4b3

 

[Aviador]

That's great news for Edinburgh. Do you think it will lead to more connecting flights through Edinburgh by passengers wanting to avoid the scrum in US immigration? If so what flights would likely benefit the most? I know Dublin has become quite popular with Yorkshire passengers choosing to avoid the larger airport options so hopefully Edinburgh may benefit in a similar way.

 

[Jetsco]

That's great news for Edinburgh. Do you think it will lead to more connecting flights through Edinburgh by passengers wanting to avoid the scrum in US immigration? If so what flights would likely benefit the most? I know Dublin has become quite popular with Yorkshire passengers choosing to avoid the larger airport options so hopefully Edinburgh may benefit in a similar way.

I would expect EDI to push hard and try to persuade DL and UA to go year round in some form with the ORD, IAD and ATL routes. I’m led to believe that the Atlanta route, re-starting soon is going to perform very strongly. With regards to new routes as a result of pre-clearance, I wouldn’t be surprised to see American - DFW being a strong possibility or the return of Philadelphia. JetBlue is another obvious and much rumoured target.

 

[Jetsco]

March 2023

Some stats and approx load factors for certain routes. 1,009,599 pax total in March.

Qatar - Doha 19,318 or 94%
TK - Istanbul 8,971 or 90%
UA - Newark 9,539 or 95%
DL - JFK 8,250 or 93%

Qatar still performing very strongly. The American routes doing well also following a quiet (ish) February. TK also up.

Some stats for other European routes.

Copenhagen - 14,474. Norwegian going double daily three time per week will boost this more.
Helsinki - 3,027. Finnair and route boosted by using A321 on certain rotations.
Paris CDG - AF and EZY - 32,476. Well up on last year.
Dublin - 58,535 up 33%
Cork - 14,246. Up 209%
Stockholm - 4,133 up 664% Scandinavian and Norwegian this summer should boost this further.
Amsterdam - 42,155 up 31% despite KLM cutting some night stoppers.
Oslo - 9,032 up 97%

 

[Viscount]

EDI has 11 Long haul flights today
2 Doha
2 Canada
7 USA

and the summer just begun

 

[Jetsco]

EDI has 11 Long haul flights today
2 Doha
2 Canada
7 USA

and the summer just begun

Big test for the airport and its infrastructure. Busiest day ever for wide-body arrivals/departures. Unfortunately, United’s 764 to from/to Washington is cancelled. Went tech early yesterday evening. Lots of inbound delays from the US due to weather. The terminal will be bursting at the seams.

W23 ACL

The initial W23 ACL, which is due to be published in full next week indicates increased request for slots or international route activity. Strong indications that Emirates may return in spring 2024. The airport is also actively engaging with Etihad about a second attempt on the Abu Dhabi route. American is expected to confirm their intention to resume PHL. Another “new” US destination as well. I wonder where to?

 

[Viscount]

What about a new terminal?
I will be using the airport on the 20th June to ZRH
I am not looking forward to that.

Question for every one.

Do you have any advise about using the trains in Switzerland

 

[diamond geezer]

W23 ACL

The initial W23 ACL, which is due to be published in full next week indicates increased request for slots or international route activity. Strong indications that Emirates may return in spring 2024. The airport is also actively engaging with Etihad about a second attempt on the Abu Dhabi route. American is expected to confirm their intention to resume PHL. Another “new” US destination as well. I wonder where to?

Surely none of these will start this coming winter (ie October)? Presumably, if any start it'll be summer 24, hence the W23 slot report will be irrelevant in terms of flights to the destinations you mention.

 

[Seasider]

What about a new terminal?
I will be using the airport on the 20th June to ZRH
I am not looking forward to that.

Question for every one.

Do you have any advise about using the trains in Switzerland

I flew to Basle last year and took the train to ZRH. £40 return and easy to book.
I'm afraid that's my only experience of trains in Switzerland.

 

[Jetsco]

W23 Slots

Some interesting request. As always, not guaranteed that all will actually operate.

Hainan - request to operate in W23
Emirates - slots for daily service requested
United - increase in seats. Extension to something?
BA - large increase in seats on LHR route.
Eurowings - large increase in seats.
Wizz - large cut in seats. One or two routes suspended or dropped?

 

[Jetsco]

April 2023 Stats

Some stats and LF’s. All the long haul routes performed very strongly.

Some pax numbers and LF’s for long haul routes.

April pax total - 1,198,258 (+29% on Apr 22)

TK - Istanbul 9673 or 93%
QR - Doha 18,422 or 95% (+143% on Apr 22)
UA - Chicago 141 or 85%
UA - Newark 9,623 or 95%
DL - New York JFK 10,297 or 96%

 

[Jetsco]

American Carriers

The summer rush appears to have started. All UA and DL services this evening to EDI is close to completely sold out. UA using an 763 on the Washington route. All outbound from EDI tomorrow is very solidly booked.
VS service to MCO today was completely full. 397 onboard. Who said Virgin couldn’t fill a high density 351 from EDI!

 

[diamond geezer]

Quite a lot of long delays for stands recently. For example, yesterday's UA161 waited for over an hour on the taxiway before it could park. What plans does the airport have to increase stand capacity?

 

[Seasider]

That's a heck of a wait. Unless they wanted a specific stand, that is too excessive.

 

[Jetsco]

Quite a lot of long delays for stands recently. For example, yesterday's UA161 waited for over an hour on the taxiway before it could park. What plans does the airport have to increase stand capacity?

https://assets.ctfassets.net/2hwzhse7szu0/76rB86KREp4qz6yvsADWJJ/65a2ff07d4e334f3967f1b048fb336f6/2023_Q1_EACC_report.pdf

The latest management report details current and future expenditure and plans. Terminal expansion is on the agenda. Phased and expected to be complete by 2030. It’s only £77m however. This amount won’t buy very much. I suspect they may add separate walkways for int pax arriving and heading to immigration. This should free up access to all gates for departing pax. A contact told me they have plans to add some more air bridges to existing pier past gate 19. This would create more gates capable of taking wide-body aircraft. No question this is needed, particularly in summer months.