TUI Airways

[TheLocalYokel]

G-TUIG landed at Cancun at 1356 local time, one minute late. Overall time 9 hours 47 minutes for the 7,800km route.

After the early part of the route overhead South Wales and southern Ireland the flight overflew the Atlantic before crossing the US coast north of Miami to head south-westerly over Key West, and then over the Gulf of Mexico to final destination.

A Thomas Cook A330-200 departed Glasgow for Cancun at 1008 (one minute before the BRS flight departed), although TCX was 38 minutes late leaving, and flew north-west over southern Greenland before turning southwest over north-east Canada, the Great Lakes the eastern side of central USA, New Orleans to final destination where it arrived one minute early at 1349 local. It spent 8 minutes less in the air than the BRS flight but the GLA route was 170km shorter.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

According to FR24 BY644 just landed 18.57 UTC.

Anyone got any idea of the payload ?

No freight, must have a higher pax density than a legacy airline, but maybe less luggage than such an airline

Wiki suggests that the TOM 787-8s have 300 seats in two classes. As a comparison it shows BA with 214 seats in four classes and Qatar with 254 seats in two classes.

When TOM's former First Choice B767-300s operated from BRS to CUN and SFB they had 270 seats.

Addendum

Checking Seat Guru shows the TOM 787-8s have 288 seats. BA and Qatar are as Wiki although BA is shown as three classes, not four.

 

[superking]

Any body any idea pax loading on the cancun flight.

 

[kraktoa]

787 from Cancun Sunday 7th April. Photos loading

 

[kraktoa]

Images

 

[kraktoa]

Another with steps in foreground to give sense of scale. Biggest plane at Bristol?

 

[Jerry]

Biggest plane at Bristol?

Hasn't Bristol seen 767 300s? Aren't they bigger?

 

[kraktoa]

Hasn't Bristol seen 767 300s? Aren't they bigger?

the Dreamliner is 17 feet longer, 30 feet wider and 4 foot taller than the 767-300 according to axlegeeks.com

 

[Red Flyer]

Contrary to popular belief it departed off 09 unrestricted but disappointingly it had 2 empty seats
After a little bit of research the 788 is slightly longer than the 763 so is the biggest passenger aircraft to use Bristol

 

[Marko1]

Isn't the airbus a330 longer - 58 m compared to 56.7m for the 787?

 

[Severn]

Summary of TOM Routes - Summer 2018

I've compared a week in August 2018 to the same week in 2017 of Thomson Airways schedule from BRS:

Number of routes operating per week:
2017: 33

Shorthaul: 31
Longhaul: 2​

2018: 35 (+2)

Shorthaul: 32 (+1)
Longhaul: 3 (+1)​

Number of flights per week:
2017: 53

Operated by TOM: 47
Operated by other airlines: 6​

2018: 59 (+6)

Operated by TOM: 50 (+3)
Operated by other airlines: 9 (+3)

​

Number of aircraft based:

2017: 3 - (2x B752, 1x B738) (plus B788 based 2 days per week)
2018: 3 - (3x B752) (plus B788 based 4 days per week) **someone to confirm 3x B752s?


Weekly Frequencies: (a '[+]' or '[-]' represents change from 2017)

5x Weekly
Majorca (PMI)*

4x Weekly
Ibiza (IBZ)

3x Weekly
Corfu (CFU) [+1]
Zante (ZTH) [+1]

2x Weekly
Bourgas (BOJ) [+1]
Dubrovnik (DBV) [+1]
Pula (PUY)
Gran Canaria (LPA)
Heraklion (HER)
Lanzarote (ACE)*
Larnaca (LCA)
Malaga (AGP)*
Menorca (MAH)
Naples (NAP)
Paphos (PFO)
Rhodes (RHO)
Tenerife (TFS)*

1x Weekly
Punta Cana (PUJ) - (B788) [NEW] [+1]
Orlando Sanford (SFB) - (B788)
Cancun (CUN) - (B788)
Cape Verde, Sal (SID) (will operate on B788 in Summer 2018)
Alicante (ALC)
Chania (CHQ)
Sharm El Sheikh (SSH) [NEW] [+1]
Faro (FAO)

Fuerteventura (FUE)
Funchal (FNC) [NEW] [+1]
Gerona (GRO)
Kefalonia (KEF)
Kos (KGS)
Malta (MLA)*

Reus (REU)
Santorini (JSI)
Bodrum (BJV)*
Dalaman (DLM)*

DROPPED
Antalya (AYT) [-1] - (flight operated by Freebird in 2017)

*Operated by other airlines
*Majorca (PMI)

2017: 1 of the 5 flights operated by other carrier
2018: 3 of the 5 flights operated by other carriers​

*Lanzarote (ACE)

2017: both flights operated by TOM
2018: 1 of the 2 flights operated by other carrier​

*Malaga (AGP)

2017: both flights operated by TOM
2018: 1 of the 2 flights operated by other carrier​

*Tenerife (TFS) - (1 of the 2 flights operated by other carrier 2017 & 2018)
*Malta (MLA) - (flight operated by Air Malta 2017 & 2018)
*Bodrum (BJV) - (flight operated by other carrier 2017 & 2018)
*Dalaman (DLM) - (flight operated by other carrier 2017 & 2018)

SUMMARY
These increases make BRS the 4th largest TOM base in terms of routes, and flights per week (as well as based aircraft) in both 2017 & 2018 after LGW, MAN & BHX. In the last few years TOM has grown the BRS base from a two aircraft base to a 3 aircraft base and has meant it has now leapfrogged NCL, EMA and STN to reach 4th largest base.

 

[andrewgreen]

Contrary to popular belief it departed off 09 unrestricted but disappointingly it had 2 empty seats
After a little bit of research the 788 is slightly longer than the 763 so is the biggest passenger aircraft to use Bristol

Only 2 empty seats !! i sthat really disappointing ? especially for a first flight

 

[kraktoa]

Its very odd that Bristol Airport mayfly did not feature todays Cancun morning flight. Neither does it feature tomorrow's flight returning from Orlando.

I queried it with them and was fobbed off with the answer that 'as it has no pax it does not feature in the Mayfly'

Thats wrong isnt it? Did the airport just forget to include these flights? The seats were available to book even one way from Cancun or Stanford until the last Minute i presume. Thomson would not refuse a fare paying pax. And the airport would not know if there were revenue pax on the flight or not until it took off.

 

[kraktoa]

Only 2 empty seats !! i sthat really disappointing ? especially for a first flight

Depends which class the empty seats were in. If in business it would hurt the airline i guess. Less profits. Time will tell if 47 Business class seats to CUN was overestimating the demand For premium seats from the South WEST.

 

[Marko1]

I wonder whether those 9 operated by other airlines could be operated by a fourth based aircraft ?

 

[Severn]

Its very odd that Bristol Airport mayfly did not feature todays Cancun morning flight. Neither does it feature tomorrow's flight returning from Orlando.

I queried it with them and was fobbed off with the answer that 'as it has no pax it does not feature in the Mayfly'

Thats wrong isnt it? Did the airport just forget to include these flights? The seats were available to book even one way from Cancun or Stanford until the last Minute i presume. Thomson would not refuse a fare paying pax. And the airport would not know if there were revenue pax on the flight or not until it took off.

G-TUIG - which operated todays BRS-SFB will not be returning to BRS as there are no return passengers! So G-TUIG is leaving SFB for MAN this evening.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Its very odd that Bristol Airport mayfly did not feature todays Cancun morning flight. Neither does it feature tomorrow's flight returning from Orlando.

I queried it with them and was fobbed off with the answer that 'as it has no pax it does not feature in the Mayfly'

Thats wrong isnt it? Did the airport just forget to include these flights? The seats were available to book even one way from Cancun or Stanford until the last Minute i presume. Thomson would not refuse a fare paying pax. And the airport would not know if there were revenue pax on the flight or not until it took off.

Mayfly does list the returning CUN flight. It shows it arriving at 0740 as TOM645F. It's been in Mayfly all week. I quoted it last Thursday in #316 in this thread.

I'm not sure that the comment about two spare seats being disappointing was not made in tongue in cheek.

 

[superking]

Watched it land on 09 this morning,nice landing less than half a runway used,but it was empty. Am I seeing things with the steps to the middle door were a escalator type.

 

[superking]

Most of the tom flights that start a service with pax out bound do not feature in the mayfly. Like wise the end of season charters are not listed in mayfly as outbound only the return flight from which ever airport it came from.

 

[NOSIGWX]

Contrary to popular belief it departed off 09 unrestricted but disappointingly it had 2 empty seats
After a little bit of research the 788 is slightly longer than the 763 so is the biggest passenger aircraft to use Bristol

The flight was fully booked, but there were two no show passengers.