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[Aviador]

Looking at this from a different perspective. The Manchester base is big but with a catchment area that still holds substantial growth potential. Jet2 may feel they are reaching the limitations of their Manchester investment knowing the Manchester airport terminal investment will inevitably lead to increased charges.

Within the Manchester airport catchment area there lies two airports, LBA and LPL. Leeds is currently unable to accept any significant growth due to terminal constraints while Liverpool on the other hand is somewhat underused.

So in the end you have a product served by three airports, three different airport operators in what is essentially one catchment area. That gives Jet2 some incredible buying power between the three airports remembering of course that Manchester of which has a 1bn new terminal building to pay for.

All hypothetical but there could be some truth in there somewhere.

 

[Silvercity]

Looking at this from a different perspective. The Manchester base is big but with a catchment area that still holds substantial growth potential. Jet2 may feel they are reaching the limitations of their Manchester investment knowing the Manchester airport terminal investment will inevitably lead to increased charges.

Within the Manchester airport catchment area there lies two airports, LBA and LPL. Leeds is currently unable to accept any significant growth due to terminal constraints while Liverpool on the other hand is somewhat underused.

So in the end you have a product served by three airports, three different airport operators in what is essentially one catchment area. That gives Jet2 some incredible buying power between the three airports remembering of course that Manchester of which has a 1bn new terminal building to pay for.

All hypothetical but there could be some truth in there somewhere.

There has been much talk about where Jet2 will be situated check -in wise . It seems likely they may get their own area and lounge . The terminal capacity is 7M, so there is about 2M spare presently . The terminal is quick and easy to use, this gives Jet2 an opportunity to enhance passenger experience .

 

[Aviador]

I doubt they will get their own lounge, probably their own check-in area within the main concourse.

 

[Silvercity]

I doubt they will get their own lounge, probably their own check-in area within the main concourse.

Have to see, there is some construction work talked about. Things will be revealed around November I believe.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Apparently Jet2 are to announce two new destinations from winter 24. These will be unserved routes from Liverpool.


nwan

Paphos and Antalya??

 

[Silvercity]

Paphos and Antalya??

I think its meant to be cities, but have to see. Those are already served.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I think its meant to be cities, but have to see.

Now that’s interesting going up against EasyJet with city routes out of Liverpool. I would imagine Christmas markets - Prague and Krakow.

 

[Silvercity]

Now that’s interesting going up against EasyJet with city routes out of Liverpool. I would imagine Christmas markets - Prague and Krakow.

Prague is a gap needing filling as is Berlin

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Prague is a gap needing filling as is Berlin

jet2 cannot for some strange reason make Berlin work. They’ve tried it from Leeds and from Manchester. Tried summer, partial summer, all year round and it just doesn’t work. Christmas only now but would imagine Liverpool supporters would want it year round.

 

[Silvercity]

jet2 cannot for some strange reason make Berlin work. They’ve tried it from Leeds and from Manchester. Tried summer, partial summer, all year round and it just doesn’t work. Christmas only now but would imagine Liverpool supporters would want it year round.

It was a route that Easyjet ran for donkies, with good loads, then all of a sudden they pulled it. It still gets a lot of requests.There are some Italian routes that have not returned since Covid, like Venice and Pisa, all long-standing so Jet2 have options. Only thing is, just watch FR suddenly launch in competition.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

FR is one I imagine Jet2 will have their eye on. If easy was getting good LF there’s no reason FR cannot get the same if not higher.

I don’t see LPL for Jet2 anything other than a relief leisure base for MAN. But then again I could be wrong. Some routes could work from LPL also. Be interesting to see next 2-3-4 years.

 

[CM.]

Apparently Jet2 are to announce two new destinations from winter 24. These will be unserved routes from Liverpool.


nwan

Looking at your post from May 26th #32 my suggestions would be KRK, FCO, BUD, VCE are possible options. I know Krakow is served by EZY but could still be a route they could launch. Not sure about the other 3 I’ve suggested though.

 

[Silvercity]

FR is one I imagine Jet2 will have their eye on. If easy was getting good LF there’s no reason FR cannot get the same if not higher.

I don’t see LPL for Jet2 anything other than a relief leisure base for MAN. But then again I could be wrong. Some routes could work from LPL also. Be interesting to see next 2-3-4 years.

I think the base will grow in the same way as any other base that Jet2 launch. There are plenty of options available for them route wise, plus superior customer experience than Manchester.

 

[gulftraveller]

I am not sure customer experience is that relevant to growth. The Manchester catchment is very much larger than Liverpool which is what really matters. Still, Jet 2 should do well from LPL and evolve like BFS, NCL, or GLA bases have done.

 

[Silvercity]

I am not sure customer experience is that relevant to growth. The Manchester catchment is very much larger than Liverpool which is what really matters. Still, Jet 2 should do well from LPL and evolve like BFS, NCL, or GLA bases have done.

The catchment is actually very similar. I would have expected as Jet2 offer a quality experience that was important to them. There is obviously far less restrictions for growth at Liverpool. There is apx 2 million capacity still available from the current building, working on 5M already used.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

The catchment is actually very similar. I would have expected as Jet2 offer a quality experience that was important to them. There is obviously far less restrictions for growth at Liverpool. There is apx 2 million capacity still available from the current building, working on 5M already used.

Somewhere I read, or something I saw on a video, basically said LPL, MAN, LBA and to an extent NCL all share the same catchment area. All that matters is locality of the airport to the person and experience at the airport.

 

[Silvercity]

Somewhere I read, or something I saw on a video, basically said LPL, MAN, LBA and to an extent NCL all share the same catchment area. All that matters is locality of the airport to the person and experience at the airport.

and of course the price of the ticket, but yes those airports all overlap.

 

[gulftraveller]

Catchment is more complex than drawing a circle around the airport and focuses in part on surface transport. The catchment studies provided to airlines I have seen, show a very much larger catchment at Manchester than LPL or LBA.

I do not use any of these airports but if you still believe the catchment is the same, you must explain why over the past sixty years Manchester has become so much larger than the other airports. I doubt that this disparity between the airports will change in the future, security queues or no security queues. UK is, after all, a small country - LBA to MAN is the same as the road journey between IST and SAW, two airports serving the same city.

 

[Silvercity]

It is more complexed than drawing a circle around any airport, it is due to ease of access. So 2 hours drive from Liverpool Airport includes , Manchester, Lancashire, south to Staffordshire/ Derbyshire and over to Yorkshire. Indeed some travel further I've spoken to people from Scotland and Birmingham in the boarding queue . The A5300 changed access to Liverpool airport greatly, as had the second river crossing at Runcorn.

Rail access whilst not as good as Manchester, is pretty good with Liverpool South Parkway Station offering airport access. All trains call here, plus Avanti are to add a London service to call here once the new train class has arrived. Having said all that most people arrive at Liverpool and Manchester Airports by car, this will remain unless we see some surface transport improvements to rival London which I doubt.

Manchester has become larger because it had greater choice of flights, which has boosted its usage by drawing in from neighbouring regions. This is changing as Manchester become full and the problems that creates . I expect to see both LBA and LPL to grow and of course NCL

Jet2 announces extra European route from Liverpool - Liverpool Business News

In May Jet2 and Jet2holidays announced flights from Liverpool for the first time from 2024 and now the company is adding a new sunshine route to the list

lbndaily.co.uk

 

[Aviador]

Somewhere I read, or something I saw on a video, basically said LPL, MAN, LBA and to an extent NCL all share the same catchment area. All that matters is locality of the airport to the person and experience at the airport.

I agree with this statement. It's all down to choice and availability.

Catchment is more complex than drawing a circle around the airport and focuses in part on surface transport. The catchment studies provided to airlines I have seen, show a very much larger catchment at Manchester than LPL or LBA.

I agree it's not simple but the catchment area of an airport most definitely isn't defined by the surface access of an airport, it is defined more by choice and availability. Take for example flights to somewhere like Tenerife. Flights to Tenerife are available from airports throughout the North of England often with choice of more than one airline therefore the imaginary catchment circle ring will be significantly smaller from Manchester airport than if you compare Tenerife with somewhere like Dubai where somebody in say Leeds will have to choose between Manchester or Newcastle for their departure airport.

LBA to MAN is the same as the road journey between IST and SAW, two airports serving the same city.

This is something people often say referring to how short the distance is between two airports but that argument works both ways. If a flight is only available from Liverpool there is every probability the flight will pick up passengers from Manchester and Leeds, likewise if a flight is only available from Leeds it will pick up passenger from Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle.