Cardiff: Loganair Flights, New Routes & Schedule Updates

[Nuffsaid]

Loganair have suspended their services from Newquay for the winter and will place more emphasis on service from Cardiff, Exeter and Southampton.
Could there be something in the pipeline from CWL?

 

[Tinkerman]

Came across this article from the CEO of Loganair on LinkedIn just now … Interesting, and quite a lot of capacity to infill at relatively short notice.

Seems to be a disagreement about incentivising the PSO routes over commercial arrangements.

 

[Jerry]

Came across this article from the CEO of Loganair on LinkedIn just now … Interesting, and quite a lot of capacity to infill at relatively short notice.

Seems to be a disagreement about incentivising the PSO routes over commercial arrangements.

According to SeanM on twitter Loganair don't seem happy that Newquay are incentivising Flybe 2.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1564266861717495808

Loganair have suspended their services from Newquay for the winter and will place more emphasis on service from Cardiff, Exeter and Southampton.
Could there be something in the pipeline from CWL?

Well hopefully we might see some more frequency on Edinburgh.

 

[Jerry]

Hopefully we might see some frequency increase in the future for Summer 2023!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1577380653951320074

 

[geoff]

Big increases for Southampton and Exeter, shame there's nothing for us yet, we live in hope.

 

[Jerry]

Big increases for Southampton and Exeter, shame there's nothing for us yet, we live in hope.

Still plenty of time and I'd expect Cardiff to be in phase 2 or 3 of any such expansion for summer.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Tuesday and Wednesday flights have been cut during January and February. Excluding the 3rd & 4th of Jan and restarting 28th Feb.

 

[Jerry]

That's disappointing.

 

[geoff]

Mentioned on the other forum, that it appears that Loganair, are to start operating to Jersey from BRS next summer, joining Blue Islands on the route, they seem to have ignored CWL once again. That is a route that would have worked for them from CWL

 

[Jerry]

Mentioned on the other forum, that it appears that Loganair, are to start operating to Jersey from BRS next summer, joining Blue Islands on the route, they seem to have ignored CWL once again. That is a route that would have worked for them from CWL

I do think that Blue Islands and Loganair have a partnership so it may be that they're operating extra flights because Blue Islands can't? But it is disappointing that the Jersey route hasn't been taken up.

 

[Starflyer]

Tuesday and Wednesday flights have been cut during January and February. Excluding the 3rd & 4th of Jan and restarting 28th Feb.

Those flights were never in the schedule to begin with - looking at the original schedule feeds, they weren't loaded for Jan/Feb.

I don't think for one minute they will be doing BRS/JER in their own right. The 145s (which fly BRS) are terrible aircraft for Jersey's runway and I was told that's why they'd stopped JER completely with no plans to return. More likely that this is some schedule synchronisation issue under the Blue Islands codeshare.

 

[geoff]

Nice to see an A320 operating the Loganair Edinburgh route yesterday, I wonder if it was because the airline had a greater number of bookings than their own planes could cope with, or was it a shortage of their own planes to run the service.

 

[Jerry]

I'd say probably more due to a shortage of aircraft. Credit too Loganair for not cancelling and bringing in a Titan A320 no doubt at a lot of expense.

 

[geoff]

Nice to see Loganair operating two flights today, let's hope it will be a regular thing in the future. I'm sure CWL could support two daily flights to Edinburgh, on 48 seater aircraft, in FlyBE days they had over 100,000 passengers on the route, even BMI Baby were successful on the route with 737's many moons ago.

 

[Jerry]

Would be nice to see the Edinburgh back to multiple daily flights.

 

[Jerry]

Looking at Loganair's website and it appears that the Edinburgh route will be operated by both ATR 42s and E145s.
Looking at the website it appears that in March the route will be 5 weekly ATR42 flights and 1 weekly E145 (Friday) except the last week of March which is the same as April, then in April it looks to be 3 weekly(Sunday, Wednesday and Friday)ATR42, 3 weekly (Monday, Tuesday and Thursday) E145. It's the same for May but in June the ATR42 flights are only operated on Sundays and Fridays with the E145 for the other 4 flights. July, August, September and October are all E145 flights.

 

[geoff]

Couple of posts on the other forum, wondering why Loganair have not gone double daily, on the Edinburgh route, they certainly haven't expanded as they said they would do at CWL, but have done so at Southampton and Exeter. Their move to putting the ATR on the route several times a week also seems to be a backward step, although the capacity remains about the same. I wonder if RYR could put a few flights on the route, with an Edinburgh based aircraft the same as what they have done at Bournemouth.

 

[Jerry]

Their move to putting the ATR on the route several times a week also seems to be a backward step, although the capacity remains about the same.

Putting the ATR on the route may actually help in making it more profitable as I'd expect it's less costly to operate than the E145 and the prices seemed a bit lower.

As for Southampton and Exeter it's probable that they may well be more profitable especially Southampton where they have less competition and loganair only have a limited amount of aircraft.

 

[Jerry]

Loganair have put Summer 2024 onsale up too 15/7/24.
The frequency remains the same at 6 weekly departures (no flight on Saturdays). But the aircraft seating map shows that the route will be operated by an ATR72 and not the E145. This means Edinburgh will go from 2353 seats both ways monthly to 3456 seats both ways monthly.
I know it doesn't sound much but an extra 1100 seats a month shouldn't be laughed at.

 

[Jerry]

2 years of Loganair operating the Edinburgh route

https://twitter.com/x/status/1688956511358234624