TUI Airways

[737 400]

Yes Exeter is usualy closed from 1900

So far as I know, EXT has only closed on Saturday and Sunday nights this winter, for runway re-surfacing and installation of new LED lights.
On weekday nights the West Atlantic flight between EXT and EMA has continued to operate as normal for Royal Mail.

 

[Marko1]

Summer 2019 is launched on April 5th

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Summer 2019 is launched on April 5th

I wonder what the based complement will be at BRS in summer 19.

Jethros Fleet Listings shows one 757 to be disposed of this coming winter and three more next spring that will leave just ten in the fleet in summer 19. It's quite possible that BRS will have one or even no 757 based in summer 19. Jethro shows the remaining 757s being disposed of in winter 19/20 so by summer 20 there will be none.

If the based 2 x 757 and 2 x 738 of summer 18 become 4 x 738 in summer 19 that will be a big drop in capacity.

TUI have a number of 737MAX10s on order which would have broadly similar passenger capacity as their 757s. It's doubtful that BRS would be amongst the first TUI airports to see any of these so perhaps those airports that do will be the first to lose their 757s. If so, the same question still applies to summer 20.

 

[Jerry]

TUI have a number of 737MAX10s on order which would have broadly similar passenger capacity as their 757s. It's doubtful that BRS would be amongst the first TUI airports to see any of these so perhaps those airports that do will be the first to lose their 757s. If so, the same question still applies to summer 20.

I'd have thought that airports that have based 757s would get 737MAX10s as a direct replacement.

 

[Marko1]

Maybe there be 5 x 737s and a based 787 ?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I did hear from someone who ought to know, but from the airport and an airline can always change its plans, that the TUI 737MAX10 will come to BRS but no timescale was given and an interim measure (so I was told by this person just before Christmas) could be 5 x 738s based. That though would surely complicate TUI's planning in terms of capacity for each route, ie a 757 might be fine, one 738 too little but 2 x 738s too much.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

BRS still has 757's based for 2 reasons, capacity and aircraft performance. I'm not sure of the specifics of the MAX but I'm guessing with them being more fuel efficient that they will be lighter and be able to perform better off the runway and do the missions the 757's do.
The Max-10 order is for 18 aircraft. But that doesn't necessarily mean they will go to TUI Airways (UK).
Expect to see more, but nothing substantial, from TUI in the Southwest when S19 is put on sale.
TUI and MT's growth in BRS is part down to the night restrictions and parking restrictions looming at BRS. They got in there while the space was still available.
I guess the long term plan is 737 and 787 only, but it would be nice to see a TUI 767 based!

 

[big g]

I'd have thought that airports that have based 757s would get 737MAX10s as a direct replacement.

Watch this space for the 737-10, they will replace the 757’s.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Expect to see more, but nothing substantial, from TUI in the Southwest when S19 is put on sale.
TUI and MT's growth in BRS is part down to the night restrictions and parking restrictions looming at BRS. They got in there while the space was still available.

BRS will have to find more space very soon if it is not to stagnate. The current expansion plans are yet to be completely fulfilled, consisting as they do of an eastern walkway to feed new stands in the area currently occupied by the old terminal. Rumour has it that this will be partly addressed during next winter with two or three two stands being built in that area to add to the one currently being built.

When the airport publishes its new draft master plan later this spring we shall gain an insight into how they think the airport will be developed in the future. Will they demolish the current 20-year old terminal or retain it and develop it further or build a second terminal on the southside to complement the existing terminal?

They obviously all have their pros and cons but in truth we the public, although asked for our views, don't really know enough about the ramifications, technical or environmental isssues to make meaningful judgements.

I don't know how much notice was taken of public reaction when the current master plan was being prepared around 2005. What we do know is that as a blueprint the subsequent expansion was based on it and the passenger projections were pretty sound as well. If the new master plan turns out to be an equally accurate template for future development we will have seen an early indication of BRS in 20-30 years time.

 

[Marko1]

Just a thought - the airport managed to find the room during the early hours when the champions league final was on. Could that be some sort of temporary solution ?

 

[superking]

As a temporary fix when lots of diverts been in they parked aircraft on the taxi way leading from the 09 end. But that is not a fix that could be done every day.
I think long term some thing regards aircraft parking has to be done south side even if its schedule airlines aircraft parking to free up stands north side.

 

[Kingshat]

Four new stands will be available by summer 2020, bringing the total new build since 2016 to 8 which is no mean feat considering the size of the site. Thereafter expansion will follow the course of the new master plan, but aircraft overnighting is not the only method of expansion - there is plenty of room for arrivals from 07:30 onwards each morning and between each of the 4 peak inbound periods.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Four new stands will be available by summer 2020, bringing the total new build since 2016 to 8 which is no mean feat considering the size of the site. Thereafter expansion will follow the course of the new master plan, but aircraft overnighting is not the only method of expansion - there is plenty of room for arrivals from 07:30 onwards each morning and between each of the 4 peak inbound periods.

Many thanks for that, Kingshat.

Not so good for local members of the airline's staff but in terms of the airport's traffic flows BRS benefited significantly in summer 2013 when, reportedly because of a disagreement with the airport over charges, Ryanair reduced their based aircraft to two but retained frequencies and routes by using aircraft from the 'away' bases. This led to up to six arrivals and six departures most evenings between around 1830 and 2100 and a number of others each day during the morning slack periods, which brought a bonus of reducing departures in the peak early morning period and a reduction of overnight parked aircraft.

Some more non-based aircraft routes either with existing carriers or new ones would have a similar effect.

Until all the new stands are available in 2020 (I thought it was summer 2019 but I stand corrected) there might be limited scope for new services in summer 2019 unless they are 'away' based aircraft.

 

[Kingshat]

Many thanks for that, Kingshat.

Not so good for local members of the airline's staff but in terms of the airport's traffic flows BRS benefited significantly in summer 2013 when, reportedly because of a disagreement with the airport over charges, Ryanair reduced their based aircraft to two but retained frequencies and routes by using aircraft from the 'away' bases. This led to up to six arrivals and six departures most evenings between around 1830 and 2100 and a number of others each day during the morning slack periods, which brought a bonus of reducing departures in the peak early morning period and a reduction of overnight parked aircraft.

Some more non-based aircraft routes either with existing carriers or new ones would have a similar effect.

Until all the new stands are available in 2020 (I thought it was summer 2019 but I stand corrected) there might be limited scope for new services in summer 2019 unless they are 'away' based aircraft.

Two new stands by summer '19 Yokel and a further 2 for summer '20.

 

[Foxlimayankee]

Then there's the night quota to deal with.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Two new stands by summer '19 Yokel and a further 2 for summer '20.

Thank you. Another way of increasing the capacity without needing more stands is an increase in size of aircraft. Not related to TUI but easyJet seems to be doing just that. As recently as 2015 there were five 320s based with the rest 319s. According to an earlier post herein there will be ten 320s this summer and six 319s. Five 320s replacing 319s is nearly the equivalent of a 319 aircraft in numbers of seats. Obviously this doesn't have the flexibility of an additional aircraft but it all helps.

Then there's the night quota to deal with.

As was reported last year, BRS has been designated a level 3 coordinated airport in the summer season beginning summer 2018 (BST) to be effective between 2300 and 0700. Whilst this won't alter the night time noise quota it ought to make the system tighter in terms of scheduling.

The night time noise quota period is between 2330 and 0600 and has two elements.

First there is a movements limit during this period which is 3,000 in summer and 1,000 in winter. The latest available figures on the airport website appear to be for 2016 when 2,704 of the summer movements limit were utilised. The winter period was still current when the monitoring report was published so no details were available for that. However, in the previous five winters the highest use for any one winter was 257 of the 1,000 available.

There is also a night noise points quota based on aircraft type noise. Summer has a cap of 1260 and winter 900. In summer 2016, 1354 of the 1260 were used. There is an arrangement whereby up to 10% of the previous season's cap can be carried over to the next and 10% of the following season's points can be anticipated and utilised as well. So the 94 point overrun in summer 2016 was 'funded' by 10% (90 points) from the previous winter and 4 points of the 90 from the following winter.

The winter quota points are never close to being fully utilised so in practice provide some leeeway for summer. The highest number of winter points used in the past 20 years was in 1998/1999 when 765 were used. In recent years winter usage has been in the very low 100s each winter. Summers have been variable with six of the past 20 summers exceeding the 1260 limit, the last one being in 2010 prior to 2016's overrun.

On top of the above there is a further overriding limit between the hours of 0600-0700 and 2300-2330 in that the number of take-offs and landings must not exceed 10,500 in any calendar year. In 2016 there were 5,182 such movements and in 2015 4,646 so that doesn't appear to represent a problem now or in the immediate future.

With some of these limits already making their presence felt it's an interesting conundrum for the airport to ponder how it will achieve 12 mppa by 2015 and 15-20 mppa in the years after that.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Hurghada

I forgot about this and missed the fact that TUI restarted a weekly flight on Monday 5 March after an absence of several years.

 

[Marko1]

With more 789 s arriving this summer and 788s moving to other airlines in the tui group, can the 789 confidently be handled from brs ?

 

[Jerry]

I'd be surprised if the airport couldn't handle one but I don't think BRS will see a TUI 787 9. Would it have the range for the destinations from BRS without fuel stopping?

 

[superking]

I'm sure its only 1 air frame moving to another airline in the TUI group.
I'm sure the 787 9 can operate from BRS. For sure it will have limits some where if it be fuel or pax.
Perhaps some one with operation figures could confirm.