Monarch Airlines

[Jerry]

So are United 747s operating Monarch flights because Monarch are going bust???

 

[User001]

The CAA wouldn't be paying for 5 aircraft, (3 UA 1 Omni and 1 Air Transat) to be in position ready to fly pax home on baseless rumours. Somethings up, that's for sure.....

 

[Jerry]

So are United 747s operating Monarch flights because Monarch are going bust???

 

[nwoody2001]

The CAA wouldn't be paying for 5 aircraft, (3 UA 1 Omni and 1 Air Transat) to be in position ready to fly pax home on baseless rumours. Somethings up, that's for sure.....

Have you got any evidence the CAA are paying for the charters?

 

[User001]

Yes. I can't post it here, but, yes I do.

I don't know 100% that it's for Monarch, but I do know the CAA have chartered these aircraft.

 

[Ray Finkle]

So are United 747s operating Monarch flights because Monarch are going bust???

It's a tough situation to speculate on publicly.

If it isn't true then rumours such as this can be very damaging for the company, not to mention the worry for the staff.

I guess we'll find out for sure in due course.

 

[Jerry]

It's a tough situation to speculate on publicly.

If it isn't true then rumours such as this can be very damaging for the company, not to mention the worry for the staff.

I guess we'll find out for sure in due course.

Yeah they are. Hopefully they are not true as i used to work for a firm who have Monarch as their biggest customer and still know people who work their. Fingers crossed everything will be ok.

 

[jfy1999]

The fact that there seem to be no flights to anywhere other than a few hot spots suggests to me that it's a tour operator which has gone under.

If it's the airline that has collapsed, why are there no flights to places other than the Balearics/Canaries etc.?

 

[Jerry]

Does Monarch still operate it's holidays side as a separate entity to the airline? Because someone has linked them with this in some way hence the rumours?

 

[flymetothemoon]

Monarchs website certainly still taking bookings for next week

 

[Aviador]

Does Monarch have any spare capacity for covering delays? Is it not possible they are drafting in aircraft to prevent compensation claims?

 

[hishaq96]

Monarch replying to a comment on Twitter that these rumours are not true

 

[lbaspotter]

I'm beginning to think its not Monarch as in the airline.

I'm now wondering if it could be that one that of the UK independent Tour Operators that might have gone bust or whom the CAA think might be going into administration very shortly.. eg "On the Beach", "Teletext holidays, Olympic Holidays, Cosmos or one of the many others whom are all ATOL bonded but tend to use scheduled flights.

If the said company has not paid the airlines (eg Monarch) to carry its passengers home it then would be down to the CAA to repatriate these said customers using charter flights.. Hence the need for these 5+ aircraft been brought over the pond to help out?

 

[thunderchild]

Certainly hope this is the case.

If it isn't true then rumours such as this can be very damaging for the company, not to mention the worry for the staff.

I did hesitate about posting for that reason but as it was already 'out there' it was bound to find its way onto here sooner or later.

 

[JF57]

I'm beginning to think its not Monarch as in the airline.

I'm now wondering if it could be that one that of the UK independent Tour Operators that might have gone bust or whom the CAA think might be going into administration very shortly.. eg "On the Beach", "Teletext holidays, Olympic Holidays, Cosmos or one of the many others whom are all ATOL bonded but tend to use scheduled flights.

If the said company has not paid the airlines (eg Monarch) to carry its passengers home it then would be down to the CAA to repatriate these said customers using charter flights.. Hence the need for these 5+ aircraft been brought over the pond to help out?

Let us hope so. Just out of interest I think Cosmos is now Monarch Holidays or something similar and is part of the Monarch Group.

 

[Barry Beeth]

But that doesn't explain why some of the UA flights (allegedly) have exactly the same Arr/Dep times as the equivalent MON services. It looks as if these flights are in place instead of MON ones - so if it is a charter company that's "on the brink" (or just over it), why would the "whole" MON flight cease, with a totally different airline operating the same route at exactly the same time?

If, of course, those timings are correct!

 

[Brummiegem]

Surely it depends on a number of factors.
If you are bringing back people 'en masse',for a reason we don't yet know,then a standard A320/1 may not be enough.
It could be that flights could be covering departures to more than 1 airport,for instance some pax for BHX and some for LBA.Passengers then being coached to LBA.I use LBA as an example,and not because I know something more.
Without knowing more then some speculation could be well wide of the mark.
The timings are interesting though.Does anybody know if the equivalent MON flights are due to operate as normal,or replaced by these other flights?
We are all assuming that all this has something to do with MON,either directly or indirectly.
Also if Monarchs' position was that bad,then why the big new route announcements recently.
If there was a problem then surely the announcements would have been held over until the situation had been sorted out or otherwise.
Something doesn't add up for me!!!

 

[Ray Finkle]

I did hesitate about posting for that reason but as it was already 'out there' it was bound to find its way onto here sooner or later.

I know mate, you are right that once it's out then it will find it's way eventually.

It's just a tough situation, obviously being a major player people will want to discuss it. I just feel for the staff who must be very worried, unnecessarily if it proves to be untrue.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Does anybody know if the equivalent MON flights are due to operate as normal,or replaced by these other flights?

As it stands ZB950 to PMI looks to be departing as normal tomorrow.

It's probably also worth noting that Monarch have 18 or so flights from Birmingham tomorrow and as far as we know only one has 'cover'.

 

[nwoody2001]

Well monarch are on twitter stating there are no truth in the rumours. Yes these could be spun but a company isn't likely to make such a statement hours before they declare bankruptcy.

Whilst I have not access to the UA schedule, it's clear that these are only Spanish flights and in high volume. The CAA haven't chartered in other flight to other countries. MON on the other hand operate to many more locations/countries. Speculation I appreciate but my guess is it's looking likely to be a tour operator which use monarch planes in Spain!