Ryanair

[eastcoaster]

FR to increase their 4 x weekly Alicante to Daily for the summer.

 

[lbaspotter]

Do you know if the extra flights that have been added by Ryanair are to operated by Alicante based aircraft or by a 3rd LBA based unit?

 

[eastcoaster]

Looking at the times, it departs ALC at 0625 on one of the days, so I guess it's an ALC based aircraft.

 

[lbaspotter]

By way just looked at the ryanair scheduled and by looking at things the Alicante-LBA routes is not going daily. Instead they have added a 4th weekly service with a new Wednesdays service by lookes of things.

FR9078 = ALC 17:50 - LBA 19:25
FR9079 = LBA 19:50 - ALC 23:30

They have also reinstated 3rd weekly Thursday flight to Pisa Florence as well.

FR2502 = PSA 17:10 - LBA 18:55
FR2501 = LBA 19:20 - PSA 23:05

 

[eastcoaster]

Ryan Air have not updated their timetables yet. MAN ALC is going to 9 a week, and still only showing 6 weekly.

 

[eastcoaster]

All flights uploaded. Now daily service to ALC and all flights operated by ALC based aircraft.

 

[lbaspotter]

Hi

Here's the updated ryanair scheduled for summer 2011 from LBA. looks like anice increase now compared to Last year.

MONDAYS
Based
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:30-08:50 = FR153/152
LBA-FUE-LBA = 07:00-16:25 = FR1584/1585
LBA-GDN-LBA = 09:15-14:55 = FR1503/1504
LBA-MJV-LBA = 16:00-22:15= FR2322/2323
LBA-AGP-LBA = 17:15-23:50 = FR2446/2447
Non Based
ALC-LBA-ALC = 08:00-08:25 = FR9078/9079
NRN-LBA-NRN = 13:50-14:15 = FR1502/1501
FAO-LBA-FAO = 16:20-16:45 = FR2503/2504
DUB-LBA-DUB = 18:55-19:20 = FR156/157

TUESDAYS
Based
LBA-KRK-LBA = 06:30-12:55 = FR2332/2333
LBA-NTE-LBA = 06:55-11:00 = FR2324/2325
LBA-TSF-LBA = 11:25-14:45 = FR2484/2485
LBA-KNK-LBA = 13:20-16:25 = FR2334/2335
LBA-AGP-LBA = 17:15-23:50 = FR2446/2447
LBA-IBZ-LBA = 17:20-23:20 = FR2486/2487
Non Based
ALC-LBA-ALC = 08:00-08:25 = FR9078/9079
PSA-LBA-PSA = 08:45-09:10 = FR2502/2501
ACE-LBA-ACE = 18:55-19:20 = FR2047/2048
DUB-LBA-DUB = 18:55-19:20 = FR156/157

WEDNESDAYS
Based
LBA-MPL-LBA = 07:00-11:55 = FR2472/2473
LBA-PMI-LBA = 09:15-15:10 = FR2326/2327
LBA-LIG-LBA = 12:20-16:25 = FR2328/2329
LBA-MJV-LBA = 16:00-22:15 = FR2322/2323
LBA-AGP-LBA = 17:15-23:50 = FR2446/2447
Non Based
BCN-LBA-BCN = 12:35-13:00 = FR9296/9297
NRN-LBA-NRN = 13:50-14:15 = FR1502/1501
FAO-LBA-FAO = 16:20-16:45 = FR2503/2504
DUB-LBA-DUB = 18:55-19:20 = FR156/157
ALC-LBA-ALC = 19:25-19:50 = FR9078/9079

THURSDAYS
Based
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:30-08:50 = FR153/152
LBA-KRK-LBA = 06:30-12:55 = FR2332/2333
LBA-PMI-LBA = 09:15-15:10 = FR2326/2327
LBA-KNK-LBA = 13:20-16:25 = FR2334/2335
LBA-MLA-LBA = 16:00-23:30 = FR2448/2449
LBA-AGP-LBA = 17:15-23:50 = FR2446/2447
Non Based
ALC-LBA-ALC = 08:00-08:25 = FR9078/9079
DUB-LBA-DUB = 18:55-19:20 = FR156/157
PSA-LBA-PSA = 18:55-09:20 = FR2502/2501

FRIDAYS
Based
LBA-DUB-LBA = 06:30-08:50 = FR153/152
LBA-FUE-LBA = 07:00-16:25 = FR1584/1585
LBA-GDN-LBA = 09:15-14:55 = FR1503/1504
LBA-MJV-LBA = 16:00-22:15 = FR2322/2323
LBA-AGP-LBA = 17:15-23:50 = FR2446/2447
Non Based
ALC-LBA-ALC = 08:00-08:25 = FR9078/9079
BCN-LBA-BCN = 12:35-13:00 = FR9296/9297
NRN-LBA-NRN = 13:50-14:15 = FR1502/1501
FAO-LBA-FAO = 16:20-16:45 = FR2503/2504
DUB-LBA-DUB = 18:55-19:20 = FR156/157

SATURDAYS
Based
LBA-NTE-LBA = 06:55-11:00 = FR2324/2325
LBA-PMI-LBA = 07:00-12:55 = FR2326/2327
LBA-TSF-LBA = 11:25-14:45 = FR2484/2485
LBA-KNK-LBA = 13:20-16:25 = FR2334/2335
LBA-AGP-LBA = 17:15-23:50 = FR2446/2447
LBA-IBZ-LBA = 17:20-23:20 = FR2486/2487
Non Based
DUB-LBA-DUB = 07:35-08:00 = FR152/153
PSA-LBA-PSA = 08:45-09:10 = FR2502/2501
ALC-LBA-ALC = 09:30-09:55 = FR9078/9079
ACE-LBA-ACE = 11:30-11:55 = FR2047/2048

SUNDAYS
Based
LBA-MPL-LBA = 07:00-11:55 = FR2472/2473
LBA-PMI-LBA = 09:15-15:10 = FR2326/2327
LBA-LIG-LBA = 12:20-16:25 = FR2328/2329
LBA-KRK-LBA = 17:15-23:40 = FR2332/2333
LBA-MLA-LBA = 17:15-23:40 = FR2448/2449
Non Based
ALC-LBA-ALC = 08:00-08:25 = FR9078/9079
BCN-LBA-BCN = 12:35-13:00 = FR9296/9297
DUB-LBA-DUB = 13:15-13:40 = FR152/153
FAO-LBA-FAO = 16:20-16:45 = FR2503/2504
DUB-LBA-DUB = 18:55-19:20 = FR156/157

 

[eastcoaster]

The extra non-based flights into LBA equates to nearly 1.33 extra aircraft per day, if the flights were to operate with an LBA based aircraft. Which is good news.

 

[White Heather]

I make that 136 movements a a week, which in my view is brilliant only a year after they opened a base at LBA.

 

[User0001]

I've posted this in the MAN forum, but do you think LBIA are worried that the non RYR base of MAN has 93 weekly frequencies, only 43 behind the base of LBA, especially as LBA was announced on the back of RYR pulling MAN and stating LBA (and LPL) were getting the displaced capacity.

 

[a300boy]

Manchester has been taking flights and airlines from Leeds for the last 30 years BA, Wardair, Air Transat, Bmi to mention only a few so nothing new really. After all Manchester is a much bigger and better airport and with the number of passengers it already has we will never be able to stop airlines leaving Lbia for Manchester or increasing there presence over the hill. I suspect you know that and maybe you are looking for a negative reaction from we Lba supporters. I just hope we can hang on to our operations and maybe slowly increase them. Good luck to Manchester I wont be using any flights from there if it is possible to fly from Leeds but some I am sure will.

 

[lbaspotter]

I don't think LBA's Managerment are that scared of what ryanair are doing over at MAN. I think they are more concerned with other pressing matters. E.g. problems with LCC and so on.

In fact I have been told that ryanair are really happy with the performance of the LBA operation so far and that the new MAN flights wont hurt its LBA operation but rather compliment it.

LBA has always lived in the shadow off its bigger rival over the hill. And that will most likely never change.

 

[User0001]

Hi a300,

I didnt post to antagonise LBA folk, was mearly interested to see the different viewpoints given the statistics and the fact LBA base was born on the back of the MAN pullout. I actually think LBA is safe for the foreseeable future, as they increased LBA-ALC at the same time as MAN-ALC.

 

[leedsman]

I'm surprised that Gran Canaria still hasn't got a scheduled service given the number of flights to the other Canary Islands from LBA. Would be nice to see TFS and LPA added to the Ryanair services from Leeds.

FR increasing ALC to daily is great news, but it would be nice to see them adding some new destinations too.

Surely routes to Oslo Rygge/Torp and Stockholm Skavsta would work well from Leeds, even if only two or three times a week. Scandinavia is very much an untapped market from Leeds - it seems to work for FR at Liverpool.

 

[User0001]

I've posted this in the MAN forum, but do you think LBIA are worried that the non RYR base of MAN has 93 weekly frequencies, only 43 behind the base of LBA, especially as LBA was announced on the back of RYR pulling MAN and stating LBA (and LPL) were getting the displaced capacity.

Ryanair, Leeds Bradford and Marketing Leeds held a seminar in Leeds today which I attended along with around 100 or so others. I will post a fuller update later, but given what was shared today, then the very straightforward answer is "no". Negotiations are underway for getting a 3rd based aircraft - no guarantee it will happen, but LBA is in with a shout for 2012.

One myth that can be dispelled is that the LBA base and the decisions they took at Manchester were related. They were not. Confirmed again today.

 

[User0001]

I beg to differ on the last post. Press releases on the MAN pullout at the time clearly stated that Leeds were to be one of the main benefactors of MANs decision, and from a very reliable source, it just so happens that 11 of LBA's routes just so happened to be some of the 22 routes RYR promised MAN, or are we now going to say that's just a coincidence?

 

[eastcoaster]

World_rep. Re read LS16s post!. He was referring to the recent decision to re start MAN flights. That had nothing to do with LBA or its demise or run down as an FR base. However, the original move from MAN to LBA over a year ago, was everything to do with MANs loss would be LBAs gain.
LS16's saying it that it is not a reversal of that decision now.

 

[User0001]

It seemed he was talking about the start of the LBA base, not now. If YOU read it, nothing was said about the LBA base when MAN was re-grown. He says about dispelling the myth, but there were no myths as LBA was never threatened?

 

[User0001]

As promised, here's the lowdown from the Ryanair / LBA seminar yesterday.

First to speak was John Parkin who gave a quick 10 minute presentation, the key features were
- the long term target is 120 routes, from the current 75
- increasing frequency on existing routes is as important as getting new routes
- they are in constant contact with airlines
- using MAN has become a habit for some in the region and the airport are looking to get people to break that habit. He stressed to the audience that around 3m passengers from the LBA catchement area were using MAN and this was a big opportunity for job creation and brining economic value into this reigon rather than the North West. He described airports as "job creation schemes" and said successful city regions and successful airports went hand in glove
- he said Ryanair was the "stand out" opportunity for the airport and was a "key part of our plan" to grow
- he said the airport and Ryanair had a joint agenda to see growth at the airport

Next to speak was Ken O'Toole who is the 3rd in charge at Ryanair and is the the Head of Route Development.
- he started his piece by paying tribute to John Parkin, Tony Hallwood and Bridgepoint, making mention of the "effort and endeavour" that they had shown to work with Ryanair to get the base and said that Ryanair were impressed with the "high quality management team" that was in place
- discussions about the LBA base started back in late 2007 and early 2008. This wasn't a flash in the pan or a second choice to anywhere else
- the first 12 months have gone well and were described as "step 1 of the plan". They looked to operate on high volume sunshine routes where they thought the market wasn't being properly met because of high fares and people were leaving the region for cheaper fares.
- as confidence in the base increases they are starting to look at operating on routes that aren't being operated by anyone else, e.g. FUE, GDN and their average fares from LBA will be higher than last year (but still alot cheaper than the competition he was keen to stress)
- passengers from LBA this year will be 850,000 to 900,000.
- they have been impressed by the overseas traffic coming into Leeds. KRK has about 40% of pax coming from Poland., GRO had about 35% from Spain and the Italian routes were 25 -30%
- he said there was a lot of untapped potential at LBA and it was "several million" passengers behind where it should be
- said Bridgepoint and John Parkin & team were the "right partners" to work with Ryanair to take advantage of the opportunity
- they didn't have a 3rd aircraft to allocate to LBA for summer 11, but they have some still to allocate for next summer and so negotiations and discussions would be underway soon

 

[User0001]

Hi LS16, were there any hints at what the other 45 routes that LBA are after?

Would be interesting to see, but Im sure I read somewhere they were thring very hard to get IB to MAD.