Flybe

[lbaspotter]

So to facilitate the Newquay service, LBA is also losing a 5th rotation to Belfast on Monday, Wednesday and Friday?.

We only have a 5th daily LBA-BHD on MON,WED,THU this winter what with LBA-NQY op on TUE and FRI.

 

[lbaspotter]

Good news is that Flybe have now added a 3rd Sunday Belfast flight with an early morning rotation add for the summer 2017 schedule

Mondays, Wednesdays & Fridays
BE729 = BHD 06:40 – LBA 07:40 / BE730 = LBA 08:05 – BHD 09:05
BE731 = BHD 09:50 – LBA 10:50 / BE732 = LBA 11:15 – BHD 12:15
BE733 = BHD 12:15 – LBA 13:15 / BE736 = LBA 17:40 – BHD 18:40
BE737 = BHD 18:50 – LBA 19:50 / BE738 = LBA 20:15 – BHD 21:15
Tuesday & Thursdays
BE729 = BHD 06:40 – LBA 07:40 / BE730 = LBA 08:05 – BHD 09:05
BE731 = BHD 09:50 – LBA 10:50 / BE732 = LBA 11:15 – BHD 12:15
BE733 = BHD 12:50 – LBA 13:50 / BE734 = LBA 14:15 – BHD 15:15
BE735 = BHD 15:40 – LBA 16:40 / BE736 = LBA 17:05 – BHD 18:05
BE737 = BHD 18:50 – LBA 19:50 / BE738 = LBA 20:15 – BHD 21:15
Saturdays
BE729 = BHD 06:40 – LBA 07:40 / BE730 = LBA 08:05 – BHD 09:05
BE735 = BHD 15:40 – LBA 16:40 / BE736 = LBA 17:05 – BHD 18:05
Sundays
BE731 = BHD 09:00 – LBA 10:00 / BE732 = LBA 10:25 – BHD 11:25
BE735 = BHD 15:40 – LBA 16:40 / BE736 = LBA 17:05 – BHD 18:05
BE737 = BHD 18:50 – LBA 19:50 / BE738 = LBA 20:15 – BHD 21:15

Whilst the Saturday Newquay rotation has been rescheduled instead of been late afternoon the flights will operate mid morning as follows.

Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays
BE753 = LBA 13:40 – BHD 15:05 / BE754 = NQY 15:30 – LBA 16:55
Saturdays
BE755 = LBA 10:55 – NQY 12:20 / BE754 = NQY 08:45 – LBA 10:10
Sundays
BE755 = LBA 15:00 – NQY 16:25 / BE754 = NQY 12:50 – LBA 14:15

 

[twevsmiff]

Not sure the Saturday flights are correct.

You have the Belfast arriving at 0740 but then an outbound to Belfast at 0805 and then the Newquay outbound at 0845. I would have thought the aircraft would operate to and from Newquay before going back to Belfast.

 

[lbaspotter]

Not sure the Saturday flights are correct.

You have the Belfast arriving at 0740 but then an outbound to Belfast at 0805 and then the Newquay outbound at 0845. I would have thought the aircraft would operate to and from Newquay before going back to Belfast.

No the timings are right just that they looked wrong as listed it wrong way rounds. The Newquay flight on both Saturday and Sunday are to be operated by a Newquay based aircraft operating NQY-LBA-NQY whilst the weekday flights are operated by Belfast City based aircraft operating BHD-LBA-NQY-LBA-BHD. Hope that explains the situation a little.

BE754 = NQY 08:45 – LBA 10:10 / BE755 = LBA 10:55 – NQY 12:20
BE729 = BHD 06:40 – LBA 07:40 / BE730 = LBA 08:05 – BHD 09:05

 

[lbaspotter]

After checking the updated schedules on www.flybe.com website it looks like the Saturday flight is still operated by a Belfast City based Dash 8 but operates the following pattern instead.
BE741 = BHD 07:00 - NQY 08:20 / BE754 = NQY 08:45 - LBA 10:10
BE755 = LBA 10:55 - NQY 12:20 / BE742 = NQY 12:45 - BHD 13:55

Meanwhile it looks like the Sunday flight is operated by a Birmingham based Dash 8 that operates the following pattern
BE1825 = BHX 11:25 - NQY 12:25 / BE754 = NQY 12:50 – LBA 14:15
BE755 = LBA 15:00 – NQY 16:25 / BE1828 = NQY 16:50 - BHX 17:50

 

[oldendays]

Probably a minor point of interest but until shortly before 2pm today, we had three Flybe aircraft on the deck at the same time and on adjacent stands. All Dash 8s. I don't remember that happening since the days of Exeter and Southampton.

 

[lbaspotter]

Flybe Leeds - Newquay service increases to 5x weekly (MON, WED, FRI, SAT & SUN) operation as from this Sunday what wit the start of the summer 2017 schedule.

 

[White Heather]

LBA stated that since it commenced ops, this route has done extremely well in terms of passenger demand.

 

[a300boy]

Based on the prices they are now charging they must have been selling plenty of seats as the ones left to book have shot up.

 

[Finger66]

No surprise to me re the NQY route. Overland travel to the south west from this area is one of the biggest nightmares going so I can see this going from strength to strength. Elsewhere it has been posted that Flybe and CWL seem to be working well together in general. Now CWL is another very difficult overland journey from this region. Let's hope we can watch this space!

 

[ex_crew]

We need some good news regarding route expansion , just as things started looking brighter , two new comers pull out.

Makes you wonder where this route went wrong before for Air Southwest ?

What with Flybe getting cosier in bed with DSA , we could do without the shame , if this failed.

Great job .

 

[Jerry]

Cornwall is such a popular holiday destination, that for an airline like Flybe i'd be surprised if it fails. A CWL route would be great but i can't see it in the near future.

 

[ex_crew]

Is there a big difference with pricing between these two carriers , on this run ?

 

[cmj]

We need some good news regarding route expansion , just as things started looking brighter , two new comers pull out.

Makes you wonder where this route went wrong before for Air Southwest ?

What with Flybe getting cosier in bed with DSA , we could do without the shame , if this failed.

Great job .

The closure of Plymouth airport seemed to be the start of the end for Air Southwest. It then became part of eastern then finished totally.

Maybe model of Plymouth/Newquay - Bristol - Leeds/Manchester just didn't work with one of its legs cut off.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The closure of Plymouth airport seemed to be the start of the end for Air Southwest. It then became part of eastern then finished totally.

Maybe model of Plymouth/Newquay - Bristol - Leeds/Manchester just didn't work with one of its legs cut off.

It runs deeper than that. Sutton Harbour Holdings (SHH), the owners of Air Southwest, also held a very long lease from Plymouth City Council on Plymouth Airport (PLH). What no-one seemed to have realised is that there was a so-called 'Armageddon' clause in the lease that allowed the airport to be closed if it was unprofitable.

As Air Southwest was the only airline using PLH, airport profitability would largely be determined by the performance of this airline.

When SHH activated this clause (by which time the airline had been sold to Eastern) there ceased to be a Plymouth airport into which anyone could fly. The airport is one of the most contentious topics in Plymouth with a serious group of individuals intent on having it re-opened. However, SHH wants to build houses on the site and have laid plans.

Unsurprisingly there are many who believe this was always in SHH's mind when they were operating both Air Southwest and PLH.

 

[Finger66]

Big rumour doing the rounds at the moment is that DSA are losing the Flybe base at the end of Summer 2017. Not sure this is going to have any direct benefit to LBA, or even Flybe ops at LBA, but if the rumour is true then I have to say it's no surprise. Subsidies are all well and good but any route or routes are found out when they have to support themselves. Perhaps they should have committed to LBA in the first place instead of being paid to use DSA. To me it just doesn't show good business acumen to chop and change the route network in this way. It could easily put pax off booking because they don't know if a route will exist at some stage ahead.

 

[oldendays]

I read that rumour on Pprune, courtesy of Timmy. I'd be interested to know what substance there is to it, if any.

 

[lbaspotter]

Rumour seems to stem from the fact that Flybe are set to lose 6 aircraft at the end of the summer seasons due to end of lease agreements. Includes 3x Embraer 195's G-FBEL/M/N & 3x Dash 8's, G-JEDU/V/W. Sounds like some of the airlines loss making routes are going to be axed so to make the room.

 

[a300boy]

It was common knowledge that they were looking for something for the aircraft to do until the leases were up as they had been sitting around doing very little for some time.
Maybe they will base some Dash 8 aircraft at Doncaster instead.

 

[White Heather]

They are currently doing quite a bit of advertising on TV and Radio for Flybe services out of DSA. Whether that is to try and boost bookings or not I wouldn't know, but it would seem strange to invest in advertising if they are to pull out of the airport later in the year. That said, if they did it would be no surprise but a huge blow to DSA - and not for the first time. However, I have learned over the years to ignore rumours - people put 2 and 2 together and make 5, then it somehow becomes fact. If/when it is confirmed formally I will believe, although after the way they dealt with things when opening that base I would have little sympathy.