My contact within MAN has replied that the problem has been resolved - or so he thought!!

All arrivals now show as "Scheduled" and as a result I have bounced the issue back to him for further investigation.

Once again, when I have a correct solution I will let you now.

SD
 
Morning all.

Just a quick question for you.

Does anyone have an update on what's happening to the ex Thomas Cook hangar. My understanding was it was going to be operational this month with a new owner doing maintenance and the like.

Any info greatly appreciated.

Cheers from Bilko.
 
Although this post possibly goes against the grain of trying to keep items within the thread to which they relate I wondered whether anybody actually visits the NOTAM/OAN thread and thus I have placed the item here.

Whilst looking at the latest NOTAMs for Manchester I came across this chart which refers to de-icing areas. The chart is dated November2021.

Does anybody know whether they have actually been used or, as I suspect, does de-icing still get done on stand?

Many thanks for any input.

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I think @Scottie Dog that depends on the self handling company etc. I know for one Jet2 do their own de-icing at Man like at LBA.

UK airports dont seem to be like those overseas where the airport provides the de-icing services as they taxi out.

Winter is definitely on it's way.
 
It would make more sense to carry de icing closer to the runway. Once carried out the aircraft has a limited amount of time before it requires re-de icing.
 
It would make more sense to carry de icing closer to the runway. Once carried out the aircraft has a limited amount of time before it requires re-de icing.

It generally depends on the type of deicing used and the prevailing weather conditions, as each will affect the "holdover time" (how long after application before another application is needed).

De-icing on the taxi out takes time and adds to congestion on the airfield, whereas most of the time deicing done on stand will cover the aircraft until it is airborne.
 
De-icer also takes some time to be effective. It's not a case of 'you've been sprayed you can go'. Several minutes are required for the de-icing fluid to dissolve the ice. This is a chemical process which results in a de-icer/water mixture with a much lower freezing point than water alone. As such, taxi times from stand/de-icing station to the runway can be taken into account and gives a 'window' in which the aircraft can depart. If the aircraft doesn't depart within this 'window', then it should return for the de-icer to be re-applied. Of course, the temperature and weather conditions at the airport play a significant part in the time between de-icing and take off.

Kevin
 
Thanks to everybody who has given their answers to my original post. I'm still intrigued to know whether these deicing pads have ever been used.
 
Thanks to everybody who has given their answers to my original post. I'm still intrigued to know whether these deicing pads have ever been used.
We flew out on Air France end of November 2021 at 6am (during storm Arwen) and had to be de iced twice whilst on a legacy T2 stand. Bit of a delay whilst we waited for a shared truck (quote “they only had two to go around”)
 

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