Thomas Cook

[White Heather]

Well despite the problems of Thomas Cook, I am advised LBA are in discussion with them, and Nouvelair, with regard to the continuation of the Enfidha route for summer 2020.

 

[LBA8098]

Let's hope for a positive outcome. I believe pax figures have been pretty decent.

 

[lbaspotter]

Well despite the problems of Thomas Cook, I am advised LBA are in discussion with them, and Nouvelair, with regard to the continuation of the Enfidha route for summer 2020.

I'm suspect that's where the rumours are coming from too.

 

[louis_walton]

Sorry to be negative but I just don’t see TCX wanting to use Nouvelair in their current state.

 

[Bigman]

Not rumours anymore. Don't just book it....because they aren't there anymore. I wonder what will happen with the Nouvelair flight tomorrow evening? Do we have any other flights that will need repatriating?

 

[LBAYORKIE]

I wonder if Jet2 will operate any of the repatriation flights?

 

[paully]

I wonder if Jet2 will operate any of the repatriation flights?

Apparently they have been contracted to cover some flights

 

[oldendays]

As far as LBA is concerned, the failure of Thomas Cook is almost a blessing in disguise, in that their LBA operation was minimal so there is less of a downturn to bear. Still a grim time for air travel and leaving just two major UK tour operators. What a difference from twenty or thirty years ago.

 

[oldendays]

Another consideration is for AirTanker who damp-leased two or three A330s to TCX. I expect these aircraft will be back at Brize Norton fairly quickly and hopefully have new lessees lined up, providing AT doesn't already have other plans for them.

 

[Rob c DSA]

As far as LBA is concerned, the failure of Thomas Cook is almost a blessing in disguise, in that their LBA operation was minimal so there is less of a downturn to bear. Still a grim time for air travel and leaving just two major UK tour operators. What a difference from twenty or thirty years ago.

What a ridiculous statement almost a blessing in disguise. It's tough for all concerned it affects so many people, as for the airport any lost flights are bad news

 

[oldendays]

That's why I said 'almost' and 'As far as LBA is concerned'.

 

[lbaspotter]

Really sad day for everyone involved in the Thomas Cook Group. The UK civil aviation scene has just lost an inconic tour holiday brand. I wish everyone involved good look...

Tomorrow's Nouvelair charter from Enfidha into Leeds is still showing as been operated. Will this continue?

On another note.
I wonder what the UK tour operator "Santa Lapland Holidays" will do regards the 3x charter flights that Thomas Cook Airlines were due to operate from LBA in December 2019?

 

[paully]

I wonder what the UK tour operator "Santa Lapland Holidays" will do regards the 3x charter flights that Thomas Cook Airlines were due to operate from LBA in December 2019?

I think those flights were operated by Enter Air, if not I presume they`ll find some other operator

 

[LBAYORKIE]

I think all the remaining tour operators will do well out of this, but particularly Jet2. If they are involved in repatriation then you would think this would build immediate trust in the pax they carry, and lead to them booking with Jet2 in the future. However, the down side is that some people's faith in tour operators will be impacted negatively.

 

[lbaspotter]

I think those flights were operated by Enter Air, if not I presume they`ll find some other operator

Nah Enter Air operate flights to Lapland on behalf of Transun & Canterbury Travel.
The tour operator "Santa's Lapland" used Thomas Cook last year and are due to use them again this year. But like you say I agree that they will now have to find an alternative operator.

 

[paully]

Jet2 Holidays are going to pick up so much business from the TC collapse especially in the North West as they had a fairly big operation there I think.....Do you think we could see some A330's in Jet2 livery going over the pond to Cancun and Florida after Brexit is sorted out?
Imaging BHX, MAN, and EDI would be good starters for them.

Interesting re the A330`s..those of Air Tanker, which are based at RAF Brize Norton, are part of the RAF reserve fleet and although used by Jet2 and were by Thomas Cook, it would be interesting to know if they could be deployed abroad to foreign operators by AT, under the PFI deal......or can they be used only by UK operators..If the latter maybe room for some serious manoevre by Jet2...one to watch I think

 

[lbaspotter]

German operator Condor and Thomas Cook in the UK each operate 1x A330 leased from Air Tanker. The other 2x are as we know with Jet2.

I see all the A320/321s Thomas Cook Airlines leased from Avion Express & Smart Lynx this summer are now operating repatriation flights using Titan Airways Flight numbers/code.

 

[Tarn Spotter]

Jet2 Holidays are going to pick up so much business from the TC collapse especially in the North West as they had a fairly big operation there I think.....Do you think we could see some A330's in Jet2 livery going over the pond to Cancun and Florida after Brexit is sorted out?
Imaging BHX, MAN, and EDI would be good starters for them.

I hope we wont see any Jet2 aircraft going over the pond.
If it is there plan, MOL last week was livid TC still allowed to trade when basically bankrupt, one of the next two airlines he thinks will fold will give Jet2 an ease entry into the States long haul market.
Sad for the staff, however, the working week is always reducing, when I first started work it was a 5.5 day week, 50 hour week with two weeks holiday, today Labour want to reduce to 30 hours, more leisure time and obviously more people needed in this industry, every day I see another leisure operation opening, whilst Wall Jumping does not rock my boat, my son goes all over the world Wall Climbing and thousands seem to do it.
Thankfully TC failure is of a company who would not change and thought it good enough to offer more of the same, not good enough today, a friend in the travel business feels AI days are numbered, thing always change, standing still is dangerous for your future.
The huge changes TUI are making were impossible for TC to follow, although a great success, TC had a £2 billion debt, with no capital to make the changes the business needed, now Fosun and others can build a sustainable future.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Nah Enter Air operate flights to Lapland on behalf of Transun & Canterbury Travel.
The tour operator "Santa's Lapland" used Thomas Cook last year and are due to use them again this year. But like you say I agree that they will now have to find an alternative operator.

Enter enter air! Or our own Yorkshire airline. I read an article about enter air in the airliners world. Such an Interesting company.

If you don’t laugh you’ll cry. Such a devastating day for the industry.

 

[lbaspotter]

Looks like tour operator Santa's Lapland has started to make efforts to re-arrange alternative flights, they have released a statement to customers on its website. https://www.santaslapland.com/travel-information/thomas-cook/

Travel Advice - Thomas Cook
On Monday 23rd September 2019, Thomas Cook formally ceased trading. If you are a Santa’s Lapland guest booked on a Thomas Cook flight or have booked an Santa’s Lapland holiday via Thomas Cook, please read the below information carefully. This page will be updated as new information becomes available, so please check back regularly.

For guests booked on a Thomas Cook flight this winter:
We are making every effort to re-arrange alternative flights, and will contact you as soon as we have details of what has been organised for you, or to discuss options if no appropriate replacement flight is available.

For all guests on an Santa’s Lapland holiday booked via a Thomas Cook store:
We will take on your booking directly. We ask that the lead passenger emails us directly with the booking reference number and their contact details so we can arrange to amend the booking over. Please email [email protected] and we will respond directly. We aim to respond within 72 hours of your email but please bear with us.

As a responsible tour operator, please be assured that your holiday with Santa’s Lapland is entirely protected. As soon as we have details of your new flights, we will of course be in touch. In the meantime, please do bear with us as we make these arrangements. As we are sure you can appreciate, demand for replacement flights will be high and rebooking may take some time.

We politely ask that you do not contact us to request updates, as this will only slow the rebooking process. Thank you for your patience.

UPDATED: 23rd September 2019, 7am