Future Infrastructure Developments

[rmac]

I frequently turn off the BBC due to inaccurate, misleading, biased reporting, by disrespectful interviewers and presenters who think they are high and mighty. Even now I have just turned off a programme about the derailment in Aberdeenshire only yesterday because the presenter is demanding answers that cannot be given right now. The interviewee explains that a report will be made in time but this is not good enough for the BBC. It disgusts me and it is getting worse. I have a friend who deals with the media a lot worldwide and he explains that when doing an interview you have to be extremely careful, they will put words in your mouth, press for a certain response, belittle you if they can, eg "do you mean to tell me......." "Should you not apologise .........." etc etc It would seem there is an underlying format to be negative about LBA and presenters will have to follow this line, whereas something about Manchester for example will be presented as 'positive'! Sad really.

 

[oldendays]

As far as BBC Look North is concerned, if it didn't happen in South Yorkshire or especially Sheffield, it probably didn't happen. And if it did happen, it's bad news. Look North has had this Sheffield-and-district agenda for donkey's years. No idea why. Maybe money.

 

[Statto]

As far as BBC Look North is concerned, if it didn't happen in South Yorkshire or especially Sheffield, it probably didn't happen. And if it did happen, it's bad news. Look North has had this Sheffield-and-district agenda for donkey's years. No idea why. Maybe money.

Lol. everyone I know from Sheffield calls it “Look Leeds”. They think it’s massively biased in favour of Leeds.

 

[LBA4EVER]

The bbc should be closed down with immediate effect! £157 a year for them to try brainwash the british public by channeling their thoughts and beliefs in totally the wrong way. What the bbc broadcast is no way what the majority of the british public think! In fact what the bbc, sky etc broadcast is what causes many problems within this country, get rid!

 

[Heathrowflyer]

In fairness I'm pleased for Doncaster, good news across Yorkshire benefits the whole of the sector and means that people who may have lost their jobs in Leeds can commute to Doncaster rather than leave the business altogether.

 

[Len Fish]

Could someone please stop this from becoming a BBC bashing thread, there’s enough of that in the Daily Mail thank you very much!

 

[Aviador]

Could someone please stop this from becoming a BBC bashing thread, there’s enough of that in the Daily Mail thank you very much!

I'm not so sure it's BBC bashing as such but the local news does come across sometimes as having editorial bias for some reason?

A few weeks ago I mentioned a Look North programme which featured a news item regarding the LBA terminal proposal. The story was immediately followed by a news item about reducing flying and CO2 emissions. A couple of weeks later a new item about DSA was featured and it was followed by a different news item which showed a couple sat by the pool in Ibiza telling people to get on a plane and get out there to enjoy the sun.

As a forum that supports airports generally, the people that come here generally want to see their local airport prosper and do well providing jobs for local people whilst providing connectivity to the world.

Forums4airports has followed the industry for many years now and you can see regional bias with the media generally. Cardiff vs Bristol is another good example. The Welsh are very supportive of Cardiff airport, as is the media. Across the Severn in Bristol the media is anti airport.

Here in the North of England, the media (including the BBC) are very supportive of Manchester airport featuring connectivity, new flights and developments as good news stories. Across the Pennines the media are very negative towards LBA.

Some years ago we were told by a forum member similar could be said with regards to GLA and EDI with the Edinburgh airport being the airport receiving the most positive press.

As for the BBC generally, I personally don't have a problem with them. They provide a great service and I wouldn't want to see it go. I do feel green stories are forced upon us though, as if we aren't allowed to make a choice or decision for ourselves. (perhaps that discussion should be left for a different part of the forum)

 

[stars&sids]

I didn't know that. I always thought Harry Gration was a Bradford lad living in York. Does he really support the Wendies??

You would think he does the way he used to gush about them when they made the playoffs on numerous occasions, only to look mortified when they failed (again).

 

[White Heather]

You would think he does the way he used to gush about them when they made the playoffs on numerous occasions, only to look mortified when they failed (again).

I think he supports Bradford City really......but hates to admit it. Paul the Weatherman certainly does.

 

[stars&sids]

I met Paul the weatherman in a couple of occasions, funnily enough, once at LBA & once at DSA! Both times he was flying out for hols, but was up for a chat and a bit of football banter. Nice bloke.

 

[White Heather]

I met Paul the weatherman in a couple of occasions, funnily enough, once at LBA & once at DSA! Both times he was flying out for hols, but was up for a chat and a bit of football banter. Nice bloke.

I passed him in the street one lunchtime opposite the BBC in Leeds, next to John Lewis. He smiled and said hello, which was nice of him. Seems like a nice guy - though I didn't ask him to get his wallet out which according to Harry, puts him in a grumpy mood.

 

[tonysmith]

We once was in the Alhambra and harry was sat in front of us with a female friend

 

[LBAYORKIE]

London City airport to pause terminal extension plans – Business Traveller

Work will stop on the airport’s development programme once new aircraft stands and a parallel taxiway are completed at the end of this year…

www.businesstraveller.com

LCY to pause terminal extension due to projected slower than anticipated recovery of passenger numbers. Im sure objectors to our new terminal will latch onto this.

 

[Aviador]

London City airport to pause terminal extension plans – Business Traveller

Work will stop on the airport’s development programme once new aircraft stands and a parallel taxiway are completed at the end of this year…

www.businesstraveller.com

LCY to pause terminal extension due to projected slower than anticipated recovery of passenger numbers. Im sure objectors to our new terminal will latch onto this.

The London City project is a capital spend of 500 million, a substantially larger sum of money than the proposed spend at Leeds.

If AMP get the plans passed, it is entirely possible they could place it on hold but I think its unlikely.

 

[White Heather]

There again will the objectors latch on to the growth of Wizz at DSA. They said demand remains relatively strong. Or perhaps the fact TUI yesterday stated summer 2021 bookings are up by 145% .

 

[LBAYORKIE]

The London City project is a capital spend of 500 million, a substantially larger sum of money than the proposed spend at Leeds.

If AMP get the plans passed, it is entirely possible they could place it on hold but I think its unlikely.

Barry Wheatpeas, the objector who comments on articles in the Wharfedale said last week that he objects to LBA obtaining permission and then "holding it in their back pocket" presumably on the grounds that they should withdraw the application and resubmit at a later date.

 

[White Heather]

LBA have repeatedly said they still intend to go ahead with the terminal now, with completion 2023. This was re-iterated only a week ago when they submitted their Covid impact report to Leeds City Planning.

The objectors just come up with any 'justification' for turning this down that they can think of, none of which are based on knowledge or fact.
They need to take into account that with or without growth, the existing terminal is knackered and is preventing LBA from providing passengers with the standards of service required today. They know it too. They need a new terminal even if by 2030 passenger figures have only got back to last year's levels.

What gets me is that the objectors are all alike. They are all claiming lots of extra flights on the one hand, yet claiming their is insufficient demand in the other. Desperately clutching at any excuse they can to have it rejected. And they all continue to do so because they totally missed the boat when growth to 7m was effectively approved in January 2019 when they were all too busy with the likes of Brexit to notice.

 

[Wardair166]

Well said WH!!!

 

[LBA4EVER]

LBA have repeatedly said they still intend to go ahead with the terminal now, with completion 2023. This was re-iterated only a week ago when they submitted their Covid impact report to Leeds City Planning.

The objectors just come up with any 'justification' for turning this down that they can think of, none of which are based on knowledge or fact.
They need to take into account that with or without growth, the existing terminal is knackered and is preventing LBA from providing passengers with the standards of service required today. They know it too. They need a new terminal even if by 2030 passenger figures have only got back to last year's levels.

What gets me is that the objectors are all alike. They are all claiming lots of extra flights on the one hand, yet claiming their is insufficient demand in the other. Desperately clutching at any excuse they can to have it rejected. And they all continue to do so because they totally missed the boat when growth to 7m was effectively approved in January 2019 when they were all too busy with the likes of Brexit to notice.

In other words what your trying to say WH is that there just fulla s***! whatever comes out of their gobs is false crap with uneducated knowledge, they have nothing else better to do but moan and try bring others down around them inc peoples careers, probably because they have no career themselves esp ER and the like! so they pick the obvious targets inc aviation.
As soon as this covid-19 departs us LBA will bounce back esp the holiday market 100%, in fact if things get better for next year im pretty certain far more will be wanting to fly abroad esp with not travelling this year. What is for sure is that whether LBA gets this new terminal approved or not we most definitely need a new terminal, if LCC Reject this fantastic AMP plan then LCC might as well just shut down LBA because that's basically what they would be doing.
By the way I wonder how many ER,NIMBYS and the like fly on aircraft!

 

[Aviador]

By the way I wonder how many ER,NIMBYS and the like fly on aircraft!

Some of the Leeds Uni bunch live in Manchester so I imagine they must commute in their gas guzzling 4x4s to Leeds where they preach their global warming gospel.