Birmingham: Elmdon Building & Old Tower

[TheLocalYokel]

I thought I should use this but me and someone else have come up with the idea of possibly re-purposing the building to be a viewing area/visitor centre type thing.

Now it's just a case of making it work.

Good to hear from you again, Hassaan.

 

[Ray Finkle]

I thought I should use this but me and someone else have come up with the idea of possibly re-purposing the building to be a viewing area/visitor centre type thing.

Now it's just a case of making it work.

Welcome back mate, great to see you 👍

 

[Hassaan]

Thanks guys. 🙂

Yeah, the idea at this point is for it to be a charity/volunteer run thing. At least for now. It feels like the best option at the moment.

 

[JENNYJET]

I have to reference Airport Action with my comments herein. The footage even if inadverted, shows the appalling state of the building, and is on the world wide web for all to see. This is supposedly a listed building, IS IT?

 

[Kevin Farnell]

This is supposedly a listed building, IS IT?

It certainly did have 'listed' status. There was a campaign here on F4A to obtain that status, which was successful. As to whether the building still has 'listed' status, I don't know. If it does, I believe that the owners have an obligation to maintain it.

 

[JENNYJET]

As I understand it, English Heritage is the body responsible for the upkeep of any building that has listed status, and from an interested citizen point of view, a serious case of neglect has occured. The owners have been shoddy at best and probably inept in the upkeep of a historical building.

As to the above, I would add that the building falls under the " National Heritage Act 1983 " and thus has legal protection. Within Civil Law, a claim may be submitted for neglect however this will carry significant costs, Barristers fees and research related to the case. Payable if losing the claim but also payable to the winning claim. You are looking at around 1 Million of relevent currency units. Law does not come cheap but I find it a grubby practice and have chosen not to engage,. I prefer the analytical aspect of Law, the theory if you like, it is about the logic and the variables of a case.

Nothing is clear cut , Especially if a Jury is involved.. Guilty as sin but aquitted by a jury? Go figure !

 

[rollo]

The Elmdon terminal is indeed a grade 2 listed building ref no1458322 which came into effect in 2018. It comes under the wing so to speak of Historic England aka English Heritage.

Therefore it is a protected building and quite rightly so.

 

[JENNYJET]

The Elmdon terminal is indeed a grade 2 listed building ref no1458322 which came into effect in 2018. It comes under the wing so to speak of Historic England aka English Heritage.

Therefore it is a protected building and quite rightly so.

Indeed it is, and your remarks are noted sir. It is a remaining sore upon the body of the people that have an interest in the building. Nothing else within aviation matches Elmdon in my view.

 

[nancledre]

So, should us who contribute to membership of English Heritage be beating on their door?

 

[Timberwolf]

Indeed it is, and your remarks are noted sir. It is a remaining sore upon the body of the people that have an interest in the building. Nothing else within aviation matches Elmdon in my view.

The 2018 master plan states they planned to fully refurbish it within 5 years.That time is almost up with nothing done.

Although Covid could well have put it back two years.

However I checked the latest agenda for the next planned BHX Airport Consultative Committee meeting coming up soon, just the other day.

In that it states the Elmdon Building is to be discussed to see if there are any prospects for it to be reopened and used again.

From that I formed the opinion it will only be refurbished if there is a business case, ie a company willing to operate from within it again..however I could be wrong .

Unfortunately unlike Manchester Airport that still has a very open consultative committee public reporting..BHX seem to have changed there's. amThey don't seem to print full details of the meeting contents or decisions about such matters anymore.

So not sure if they will update the decisions in the minutes of that meeting on this topic for public viewing..

 

[IanFarquharson]

The 2018 master plan states they planned to fully refurbish it within 5 years.That time is almost up with nothing done.

Although Covid could well have put it back two years.

However I checked the latest agenda for the next planned BHX Airport Consultative Committee meeting coming up soon, just the other day.

In that it states the Elmdon Building is to be discussed to see if there are any prospects for it to be reopened and used again.

From that I formed the opinion it will only be refurbished if there is a business case, ie a company willing to operate from within it again..however I could be wrong .

Unfortunately unlike Manchester Airport that still has a very open consultative committee public reporting..BHX seem to have changed there's. amThey don't seem to print full details of the meeting contents or decisions about such matters anymore.

So not sure if they will update the decisions in the minutes of that meeting on this topic for public viewing.

I believe anyone can attend these meetings, so why not go along ?

 

[Timberwolf]

I believe anyone can attend these meetings, so why not go along ?

With my wife currently in hospital, my mum very ill and 2 grandkids to look after I don't have the time.

If your able to go would be good then, if the public are allowed.

 

[Scottie Dog]

Slightly off topic, so my apologies, but I'm sure that many will join me in wishing @Timberwolf's family well. Take care your family is a priority.

 

[Timberwolf]

Tha

Slightly off topic, so my apologies, but I'm sure that many will join me in wishing @Timberwolf's family well. Take care your family is a priority.

Thats very kind of you , thanks very much.

 

[DarloPlaneBoy]

With my wife currently in hospital, my mum very ill and 2 grandkids to look after I don't have the time.

If your able to go would be good then, if the public are allowed.

I send your family well wishes at this time

 

[Timberwolf]

I send your family well wishes at this time

Many thanks, kind.