Infrastructure, Construction & Developments

[Brum X]

Yep that's how the do it they just crane them up and swing them in its the same for cabins or state rooms as they like to call them on cruise ships.

Brum X will like the crane bit Lol

Did somebody mention a crane ?

Dont you worry as soon as there is a crane i will bring you a pic on the Greater Birmingham thread.

Brum X likes to keep everybody upto date

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I wonder if there is a name for people who have an interest in cranes. Craneologists? I can find nothing on the Internet.

 

[Brum X]

Photo of the BHX new drop off car park taken by PerpectualBrum on SSC

Apparently he has never seen so many confused people in his life, it does look confusing though

 

[rollo]

Did somebody mention a crane ?

Dont you worry as soon as there is a crane i will bring you a pic on the Greater Birmingham thread.

Brum X likes to keep everybody upto date

When a new big cheese turns up at BHX they better get some cranes in PDQ as we are creaking at the seams and it's not peak season yet, but still there are worse problems and others are in the same boat so to speak.

 

[BHXsupporter]

How do you get in? It looks like we have to drive round to the right approaching the terminal with the main carpark on the right and then there must be a very sharp 180 turn? Does anyone have a picture or map please? I'm visiting again soon.

 

[jfy1999]

The BHX website has another view of the new car park on the page below.

https://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/airport-parking/dropping-off-and-picking-up/

 

[Brummiegem]

The road to the bottom left of the image comes off the island where you go right into the multi-storey cp,or left into car hire pick-up/drop-off.
You take an immediate left to get into the car park,or if you continue on you go past the Ibis hotels and towards the airport exit.
Hope that helps you BHXSupporter.

 

[58terminus]

Outrages prices!

 

[Ray Finkle]

I don't have access to the full article.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/after-austerity-we-must-build-for-the-future-02ccc7qph

The best place to build London’s new runway is not Heathrow Airport. It’s not Gatwick or Stansted, or a man-made island in the Thames Estuary. No: the best place for London’s new runway is Birmingham.

 

[Jon Dempsey]

ED CONWAY

july 7 2017, 12:01am, the times
After austerity we must build for the future
ed conway

If we loosen the purse strings infrastructure has to be the priority, not pay caps and student fees

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The best place to build London’s new runway is not Heathrow Airport. It’s not Gatwick or Stansted, or a man-made island in the Thames Estuary. No: the best place for London’s new runway is Birmingham.

Granted, Birmingham International Airport, nestled in fields southeast of Britain’s second city, is more than 100 miles from the capital. But by the time HS2 is built it will take less than 40 minutes to get there from central London, and only a wee bit longer from Heathrow itself.

For those of us yet to be convinced about the wisdom of HS2, here at last is the justification for splurging billions on a new high-speed railway: London-Birmingham Airport. No more worries about room for expansion: Birmingham has oodles of that. No more complaints from west Londoners about flightpaths. And, to top it all off, Whitehall would finally come good on its promise to divert a bit more economic activity from London into the regions.

Before you assume this is all pie in the sky, London-Birmingham was being actively discussed in Downing Street not so long ago and championed, before his resignation, by Lord O’Neill who was one of the driving forces behind the Northern Powerhouse. But ministers didn’t allow the airports commission, chaired by Sir Howard Davies, to consider such an option before it concluded recently that expanding Heathrow was the only solution.

Beneath this saga lies a familiar problem: successive governments’ pusillanimity about big investment projects. Rather than think ahead, our ministers typically dawdle until the very last minute before panicking and lumping for the least difficult choice — which also happens to be the most expensive. You can see it with Heathrow, and indeed with the plans for a new nuclear reactor at Hinkley Point.

Speaking of which, why rely on French energy giants and Chinese capital to finance a hulking great plant when the future of nuclear energy is small modular reactors that can be mass-produced — or even 3D-printed locally — to generate power for neighbourhoods? As it happens, Britain is a world expert in the field. But such ideas are far too radical and interesting for our leaders.

It’s clear that we have no leaders capable of getting things done
And to what end? Well, consider Britain’s productivity performance. The amount of income generated by this country per hour worked is now lower than it was a decade ago. The last time we had a lost decade for productivity was more than two centuries ago. There are all sorts of explanations, from the financial crisis to levels of debt, but poor infrastructure investment is a prominent part of it. The more grit we scatter on the wheels of commerce — whether through poor transport links or weak broadband — the less dynamic this country will be.

Which is why the next few years are so critical. Before the EU referendum I said there was no reason Brexit could not be a success — but that hinged entirely on whether we would treat it as an opportunity. In other words, this isn’t just about getting the least-bad deal; it’s about overhauling
Britain’s economy.

It is about reforming the supply side and tearing down regulations that stand in the way of business. If EU rules are indeed holding back growth, now is the time to find out. It means keeping an open mind on immigration. It means taking unprecedented steps to lure in foreign investment. Up until now EU membership has prevented us from creating Dubai-style free zones in strategic locations, with tax and tariff breaks for those based inside them. Why not establish a couple now?

Reforms such as these are hard — much as building a new airport or power station, or abolishing planning restrictions is hard. They demand a bold political leader: one capable of listening to expertise, bringing their party with them and maybe even collaborating with the opposition to get things done. It is increasingly clear that we have no such leader.

On her first day in office Theresa May promised change. In her extraordinary speech outside No 10 she promised to govern for the forgotten majority. She acknowledged that Britons have tired of austerity. And yet she made no progress towards this goal in her first nine months. Instead, it was left to Labour to sketch out a vision of a post-austerity Britain in its manifesto.

In the wake of the election some Conservatives are attempting to plunder Labour’s platform for solutions — but they are plucking out precisely the wrong bits. Scrapping the public-sector pay cap and rethinking tuition fees might make some voters happy, but if you’re ditching austerity and borrowing, the very best way to do it is to invest in infrastructure.

The good news is that there are plenty of smart experts working on bright ideas for boosting productivity. But what are the chances of Mrs May even heeding their advice, let alone steering it through a hostile Conservative Party and House of Commons?

She could have avoided this mess, you know. In the hours after the election Mrs May could have called a grand coalition. Brexit and Britain’s productivity crisis are cross-party challenges that can only be addressed by a broad church of politicians. For tribal creatures such as Mrs May and Jeremy Corbyn, perhaps this would have been unconscionable. But for the rest of us, who just want to make a success of things, it may have been the last great hope.

Ed Conway is economics editor of Sky News

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[paul]

A bit of journalism worth reading

 

[JF57]

A bit of journalism worth reading

Not so sure about the amount of room for expansion at BHX without something drastic but apart from that some good logic to expanding at BHX

 

[58terminus]

I don't have access to the full article.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/after-austerity-we-must-build-for-the-future-02ccc7qph

The best place to build London’s new runway is not Heathrow Airport. It’s not Gatwick or Stansted, or a man-made island in the Thames Estuary. No: the best place for London’s new runway is Birmingham.

The best place to build LONDONS new runway is not Birmingham.The best place to build a new runway is Birmingham.

 

[Ianbutty]

Daft article. There is not oodles of room and it is okay as long as South West Londoners don't complain about noise. Umm. From Sky News . Let BHX serve its own catchment.

 

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi there ray and all, its so nice to get big support for Birmingham Airport with massive infrastructure projects away from Heathrow, Gatwick , Stansted and Manchester, but unfortunately, that support has arrived now too late as the government has now decided on who will get the go ahead Heathrow, which as we all now know was a massive mistake and choice to make, because as we all know that the MPs in Parliament have to decide and ratify it before it becomes a parliamentary act. So once they have given their approval, then isnt it another ten years before its built due to public equires.......AndyC.

 

[Ianbutty]

I agree Andy. I have to say articles that present Birmingham as some kind of London overspill sums up the whole media bias against the city. Sure HS2 and an expanded BHX will catch some London spill out, as LHR does in the opposite direction, but London (Birmingham) Airport is a non starter. Can you imagine Dusseldorf (Cologne) Airport or Paris (Lyon)?

 

[richard winterbourn]

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Any editorials that highlight Birmingham, either as a city or regional or airport developments, should be looked at in a positive manner. Birmingham is big enough, old enough and brave enough to stand up for itself and would never, in my mind, allow itself to cloned by either London or the Heathrow debate.
I also believe that HS2, reconfirmed by this Government, will prove vital in the airport's development. Yes, HS2 will make it quicker to get to London, but remember, it will also be quicker to get from London to Birmingham. Not everything is one-way..

 

[Coathanger16]

I also believe that HS2, reconfirmed by this Government, will prove vital in the airport's development. Yes, HS2 will make it quicker to get to London, but remember, it will also be quicker to get from London to Birmingham. Not everything is one-way..

True, but with HS2, Midlanders will have "quick" access to BHX and LHR, whilst Londoners will have "quick" access to LHR, LGW, STN, LTN, LCY, SEN & BHX.

I.e. Competition for Midlanders increases by 50%, but for Londoners only by 16%. It will only take a little to convince people to use HS2 to travel to LHR (they already do travel there even without HS2), whereas it will take a lot to convince people to use HS2 to travel to BHX from London.

I accept people have different opinions, but I really don't see HS2 doing much for BHX besides giving an excuse to build a new terminal at the Interchange station.

 

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi there coathanger16, I totally agree with you, all those hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds being wasted on another rail terminal station in the heart of Birmingham, again , it just goes to show how much money that the government will waste on another white elephant, that's £52 billion pounds of tax payers money being wasted again, then another £50 odd billion more on another northern Hs2 link, instead of properly looking at new street station and asking commuters that use the station instead of using consultants to waste money in designing another waste that will probably need sorting out again in ten or fifteen years time with even more money waste.....AndyC.

 

[58terminus]

I accept people have different opinions, but I really don't see HS2 doing much for BHX besides giving an excuse to build a new terminal at the Interchange station.

Thank you Coathanger.Bhx is already very well connected to the rail network but i have never seen figures
for how many passengers use the railway to access the airport or more significantly where they travelled from.
Will a 15/20 min or whatever saving on travelling time, on a probably more expensive service , which
will be less accessible to most people than the trains already serving the airport translate to a massive increase in users?
The airport certainly needs a new terminal but not on the back of HS2